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• Like a simple number that doesn t exist, is creating a war. 2 minus 1 it s equal to 1 right? Logarithming 2 is equal to 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9 and
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Like a simple number that doesn't exist, is creating a war.
2 minus 1 it's equal to 1 right?

Logarithming 2 is equal to 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9 and so
on.

log 2 = 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9...
2*log 2 = 2-2/2+2/3-2/4+2/5-2/6+2/7-2/8+2/9...

Think about this

2 equals 1.

Where's the zero in the middle? Zero exists, we don't know it, we
don't know where's it. But like Galileu said, on another discussion
said «...it moves...».
• Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law, ... How? As far as I can tell 2*ln2 does not equal ln2. Love is the law, love under will, Cameron
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

> log 2 = 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9...
> 2*log 2 = 2-2/2+2/3-2/4+2/5-2/6+2/7-2/8+2/9...
>
> Think about this
>
> 2 equals 1.

How? As far as I can tell 2*ln2 does not equal ln2.

Love is the law, love under will,
Cameron

> Where's the zero in the middle? Zero exists, we don't know it, we
> don't know where's it. But like Galileu said, on another discussion
> said «...it moves...».
• 93 ... This reminds me of the confusion in the Tarot as to where The Fool was placed. It was absurd but it went in after the 28th Atu, as I recall. Crowley
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93

--- In thelema93-l@y..., jotacb2000@y... wrote:

>Where's the zero in the middle? «...it moves...».

This reminds me of the confusion in the Tarot as to where The Fool
was placed. It was absurd but it went in after the 28th Atu, as I
recall. Crowley fixed this. At least outside of Obligations, he made
clear the placement before the One.

a new rap song is stuck in my head as I try to think about the moving
zero.

(sexy female voice)
"work the middle, work the middle, change positions"

Perhaps, all the numbers emanate from the Zero. Ain.

Nuit and her identity with Nothing, make Zero the source for all
possibilities.

> Like a simple number that doesn't exist, is creating a war.

AL I Vs.29 For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.

The union begets twins

AL III Vs.59 As brothers fight ye!

CT

93/93

Love is the Law

--- In thelema93-l@y..., jotacb2000@y... wrote:
> Like a simple number that doesn't exist, is creating a war.
> 2 minus 1 it's equal to 1 right?
>
> Logarithming 2 is equal to 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9 and so
> on.
>
>
> log 2 = 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9...
> 2*log 2 = 2-2/2+2/3-2/4+2/5-2/6+2/7-2/8+2/9...
>
> Think about this
>
> 2 equals 1.
>
> Where's the zero in the middle? Zero exists, we don't know it, we
> don't know where's it. But like Galileu said, on another discussion
> said «...it moves...».
• ... Um, there are only 22 trumps. -e.
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 christitan@... wrote:

> This reminds me of the confusion in the Tarot as to where The Fool
> was placed. It was absurd but it went in after the 28th Atu, as I
> recall.

Um, there are only 22 trumps.

-e.
• Scholarship is a bitch! I had to get a flash light and dig out The Pictorail Key to the Tarot by Arthur Edward Waite. My eyes are burning from the thick dust
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Scholarship is a bitch! I had to get a flash light and dig out "The
Pictorail Key to the Tarot" by Arthur Edward Waite. My eyes are
burning from the thick dust I distrubed.

I humbly repost:

> 93
>
> --- In thelema93-l@y..., jotacb2000@y... wrote:
>
> >Where's the zero in the middle? «...it moves...».
>
> This reminds me of the confusion in the Tarot as to where The Fool
> was placed. It was absurd but it went in after the 20th Atu, as I
> recall. Crowley fixed this. At least outside of Obligations, he made
> clear the placement before the One.
>
> a new rap song is stuck in my head as I try to think about the
moving
> zero.
>
> (sexy female voice)
> "work the middle, work the middle, change positions"
>
> Perhaps, all the numbers emanate from the Zero. Ain.
>
> Nuit and her identity with Nothing, make Zero the source for all
> possibilities.
>
> > Like a simple number that doesn't exist, is creating a war.
>
> AL I Vs.29 For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of
union.
>
> The union begets twins
>
> AL III Vs.59 As brothers fight ye!
>
> CT
>
> 93/93
>
> Love is the Law
>
>
> --- In thelema93-l@y..., jotacb2000@y... wrote:
> > Like a simple number that doesn't exist, is creating a war.
> > 2 minus 1 it's equal to 1 right?
> >
> > Logarithming 2 is equal to 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9 and
so
> > on.
> >
> >
> > log 2 = 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+1/5-1/6+1/7-1/8+1/9...
> > 2*log 2 = 2-2/2+2/3-2/4+2/5-2/6+2/7-2/8+2/9...
> >
> > Think about this
> >
> > 2 equals 1.
> >
> > Where's the zero in the middle? Zero exists, we don't know it, we
> > don't know where's it. But like Galileu said, on another
discussion
> > said «...it moves...».
• I,4: Every number is infinite; there is no difference. ... possibilities. ... AL I Vs.29 For I am divided for love s sake, for the chance of union. Zero is the
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I,4: Every number is infinite; there is no difference.

>Perhaps, all the numbers emanate from the Zero. Ain.

>Nuit and her identity with Nothing, make Zero the source for all
possibilities.

> Like a simple number that doesn't exist, is creating a war.

AL I Vs.29 For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.

Zero is the point of origin in a Cartesian coordinate system, and is
defined along any axis by the negative continuation, to the left in the
case of the x axis (or down along the y axis or back along the z axis)
and the positive continuation to the right (or up or fwd as the case may
be). In mathematical parlance this is absolute value, because a
movement to the left though it be negative is actually still only that
value in a different direction. Therefore the 2=0 equation is not only
valid but indicative of the most basic definition of 0 as a value
correlating arithmetic to geometric systems. In simple terms:

|-1| + |1| = 2
(-1) + 1 = 0

I,28: None, breathed the light, faint & faery, of the stars, and two.

I,29: For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union.

I,30: This is the creation of the world, that the pain of division is as
nothing, and the joy of dissolution all.

I,45: The Perfect and the Perfect are one Perfect and not two; nay, are
none!
• 50011130 VI! om all the old religions are black. ... 0,0,0 is the coordinate of that point. zero is (arguably) a numerical concept quite beside the point of
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50011130 VI! om

all the old religions are black.

"Jones, David R." <djones@...>:
> Zero is the point of origin in a Cartesian coordinate system,

0,0,0 is the coordinate of that point. zero is (arguably)
a numerical concept quite beside the point of whether the
point 0,0,0 is itself called zero.

> and is
> defined along any axis by the negative continuation, to the left in the
> case of the x axis (or down along the y axis or back along the z axis)
> and the positive continuation to the right (or up or fwd as the case may
> be).

the 0,0,0 point is defined by its centricity. everything proceeds from
there, whether or not negative numbers are used, as you say.

> In mathematical parlance this is absolute value, because a
> movement to the left though it be negative is actually still only that
> value in a different direction.

agreed.

> Therefore the 2=0 equation is not only valid

this is false. the 0=2 equation is a metaphor, not mathematically valid.
those who try to prove it logically will find that it falls apart
except as a model for the elucidation of esoteric concepts.

> but indicative of the most basic definition of 0 as a value
> correlating arithmetic to geometric systems. In simple terms:
> |-1| + |1| = 2
> (-1) + 1 = 0

while these TWO equations are illustrative of the difference between
absolute and relative value, they do not enable the clever mathematician
to thereafter equate 0 and 2 except in strictly illogical minds.

religion is one thing, math another, except to true Pythagoreans. ;>

333
• 50011130 VI! om ... are there? how can you tell? conventionally there have been many decks of tarocci/tarot cards which contained 21 and 22 Major or Trump
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50011130 VI! om

christitian:
>> This reminds me of the confusion in the Tarot as to where The Fool
>> was placed. It was absurd but it went in after the 28th Atu, as I
>> recall.

"Eric O'Dell" <eodell@...>:
> Um, there are only 22 trumps.

are there? how can you tell? conventionally there have been many decks
of tarocci/tarot cards which contained 21 and 22 Major or Trump cards,
but I'm aware of no special limitation on the number for the
construction of tarot cards. of course there is the humourous assertion
that the 22 Hebrew letters/ToL Paths somehow determine or constrain the
number of Trumps, but I'm unaware of the logic or necessity of this. :>

333
• ... Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. (sigh) ;-) I am of course speaking within the context of the Golden Dawn/Crowley conception of the Tarot,
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, 333 wrote:

> "Eric O'Dell" <eodell@...>:
> > Um, there are only 22 trumps.
>
> are there? how can you tell? conventionally there have been many decks
> of tarocci/tarot cards which contained 21 and 22 Major or Trump cards,
> but I'm aware of no special limitation on the number for the
> construction of tarot cards. of course there is the humourous assertion
> that the 22 Hebrew letters/ToL Paths somehow determine or constrain the
> number of Trumps, but I'm unaware of the logic or necessity of this. :>

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

(sigh) ;-)

I am of course speaking within the context of the Golden Dawn/Crowley
conception of the Tarot, with the clear understanding that the particular
Tarot under consideration has been carefully constructed to mesh well with
other symbol-sets in that tradition, including the Tree of Life, the
quinances of the Zodiac, and so on.

My day job -- which I find mildly embarrassing -- is as a programmer and
systems administrator for tarot.com, a moderately-to-highly New Agey
vendor of online Tarot readings. Our interpretations are provided by a
charming local woman who styles herself a "Tarot scholar" and who has an
undying loathing for the GD and Crowley variants on the Tarot. I keep
telling her that it is not especially meaningful to speak of "the" Tarot,
as if it were some primal archetype written with letters of black fire on
white fire in the mind of the Ancient of Days; one can only meaningfully
speak of *a* Tarot.

All that being said, I am unaware of anything with 28+ trumps that calls
itself a Tarot, though there are certainly other systems of cartomancy.
I'm surprised there aren't more, in fact.

Love is the law, love under will.

Regards,
Eric
• 93 Eric, on a point of information... ... I have had the misfortune to come across one such; the Enochian Tarot by Schueler & Schueler. 30 Trumps based on
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93 Eric,

on a point of information...

--- In thelema93-l@y..., "Eric O'Dell" <eodell@s...> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, 333 wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> All that being said, I am unaware of anything with 28+ trumps
> that calls itself a Tarot,

I have had the misfortune to come across one such; the "Enochian
Tarot" by Schueler & Schueler. 30 Trumps based on the Vision and
the Voice, 56 Minors in 4 suits based rather clumsily on the G.D.
version of the hierarchy of the Elemental Tablets. The art isn't
too bad though...

love,
dancingstar
• ... Got to love those intergers :) Malkuth93
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> Where's the zero in the middle? Zero exists, we don't know it, we
> don't know where's it. But like Galileu said, on another discussion
> said «...it moves...».

Got to love those intergers :)

Malkuth93
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