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• Hello John L, ... But, I did not say Words in A but not in B . I said Words in A without a direct parallel in B . Or clarifying more: Instances of words in
Message 1 of 36 , May 1, 2002
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Hello John L,

You write:

> No. That's incorrect. There is no confusion on my
> part. I was pointing out the error in the logic of
> his three hypothetical categories. It is illicit to
> say -B then B. This is what Categories 1 & 2 do in his
> faulty example of cat and dog. If cat & dog are in A
> then they cannot be in B since he defined the category
> that way "Words in A but not in B". If they are then
> you have the illicit major of -B then B. I think the
> problem is that he does not mean to say this but he
> does. He needs to rewrite and redefine what he is
> trying to say.

But, I did not say "Words in A but not in B".

I said "Words in A without a direct parallel in B".

Or clarifying more:

"Instances of words in A without an instance of the same word in a direct
synoptic parallel passage in B"

John P. give a good example here, I think.

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Imagine if we went through a synopsis and color-coded every word
appearing in double-tradition pericopae: red for words in Matthew not
directly paralleled in Luke, yellow for words with a direct parallel,
and blue for words in Luke not directly paralleled in Matthew. If we
did that, then every word in the double-tradition pericopae would be
colored. Furthermore, the notion of seeing whether a particular item
from the synoptic *vocabulary list* appears in one or more of these
colors is *not* nonsensical: *kai* will appear sometimes in red,
sometimes in yellow, and sometimes in blue.

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He has definied 3 categories.
Red, Blue, and Yellow.

I could then say (for example):

(The vocabulary item) "dog" is uncommon in the red category.
(The vocabulary item) "dog" is uncommon in the yellow category.
(The vocabulary item) "dog" is common in the blue category.

Dave Gentile
Riverside, Illinois

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• Correction. The following reads: 5 Words in B not used by A in any parallel B has with A. (* repetitive with #2).Words in B used not in a parallel narrative
Message 36 of 36 , May 2, 2002
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Correction.

5 Words in B not used by A in any parallel B has with
A.
(* repetitive with #2).Words in B used not in a
parallel narrative with A, but in a parallel phrase
with A
6. Words used in a unique phrase (or clause) or verse
in B exclusively.
(11) Words used in a unique phrase (or clause) in B
exclusively.
(12) Words used in a unique verse in B exclusively.

But should be corrected as follows:
(10) Words that are different between A & B having the
same subject, but which are not parallel narratives.
(11) Words in B not used by A in any parallel B has
with A.
(* repetitive with #2).Words in B used not in a
parallel narrative with A, but in a parallel phrase
with A
6. Words used in a unique phrase (or clause) or verse
in B exclusively.
(12) Words used in a unique phrase (or clause) in B
exclusively.
(13) Words used in a unique verse in B exclusively.

Consequently, there are thirteen, not twelve
categories.

There are two classes of focus dictated by the design
of the essentially required categories.

Class 1 comprises a study of narrative parallels and
non-parallels that show either possible redaction or
author's style demonstrated in the following twelve
categories:
Categories 1, 2, (3), (4), (6), (7), (8), (9), (10),
(11), (12), (13).

Class 2 comprises a study of narrative parallels and
non-parallels that show overlap between Synoptic
Gospels sharing words and material to escalating
degrees of verisimilitude demonstrated in the
following five categories:
Categories 2, (5), (6), (7), (9).

Four categories: 2, (6), (7), (9) have dual functions
since they share words and material that overlap as
well as demonstrate either possible redaction or
author's style. Each should be assessed separately.

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