... *******Welcome to the list, Gerhard. We hope you ll find people here to have good discussions of that kind with. I also was Waldorf trained and taught inMessage 1 of 5 , Jun 30, 2002View SourceIn a message dated Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:50:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, G8740 writes:
> hi, you ask me to introduce myself:*******Welcome to the list, Gerhard. We hope you'll find people here to have good discussions of that kind with. I also was Waldorf trained and taught in the high schools.
> Between 1993 and 1970 I worked in the Camphill Rudolf Steiner Schools in Scotland and South Africa. I soaked up RS's philosophy and especially his system of education. As I moved a lot around in this world of ours I lost contact with likewise people, although I have still some friends who work in the Camphill RS Schools in Scotland.
> Would be interesting to find out what is going on nowadays
> in the field of anthroposophy.
> have a nice day
In a message dated 7/3/2003 2:32:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... *******By now you should have received your first, sheridan. You can control how you receiveMessage 2 of 5 , Jul 3, 2003View SourceIn a message dated 7/3/2003 2:32:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sheridanhill@... writes:
Thank you for the welcome...and for the Zodiac images.
How often can I expect to receive emails on this list?
*******By now you should have received your first, sheridan. You can control how you receive them by going to the group web site at Yahoogroups.
You can also read the most recent e-mails there.
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Subject: Welcome to steiner
>Welcome to the steiner group at eGroups, a
>free, easy-to-use email group service. Please
>take a moment to review this message.This is a group for those interested
in Rudolf Steiner,but not necessarily paid-up members of the
Anthroposophical Society.The purpose of the group is to encourage open
minded non-dogmatic discussion on esotericism,the meaning of
life,cosmology,education,and related topics.
> You don't HAVE to formally introduce yourself,but it would be very
nice if you tell us something about yourself.
Dear Friends, I m very glad to see these attacks against Anthroposophy brought out into the light of day, since we must be aware of how fiercely AP is beingMessage 3 of 5 , Oct 19, 2003View SourceDear Friends,I'm very glad to see these attacks against Anthroposophy brought out into the light of day, since we must be aware of how fiercely AP is being fought against. The following link shows yet another "broadside" assault:while there are ever more sprouting up as well as other methods of outright lies, distortions, half-truths twisted in against AP! I doubt if anyone here is surprised and it would seem such onslaughts are to continue in ever more evil ways.Blessings and Courage,Sheila--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Derek Forman"
> If you visitand
> you will see that it is impossible to support both Wilhelm Reich
> Rudolf Steiner.It's a cinch, pal. You just click on "select text" in the menu with
> I cannot quote from that website because it is a pdf and it is
> impossible to select extracts or even to "select all"
your cursor, and you can mark and copy text.
> But Reich virtually equates all "Theosophical andAnthroposophical"
> views with FascismTrue. And this is really something for the most aggressive wing of
the anti-anthroposophy movement to feed on, where they have been
hard at work for years endeavoring to link RS, Waldorf, and
anthroposophy to anti-Semitism, fascism, pre-Nazism and so on.
The author of the pdf-formatted article you cite above is Peter
Hasselstein, who runs the Verlag für Orgonomie in Hamburg. Look at
the Homepage of Orgonomie, for example "Projekt Kinder der Zukunft":
There you can read about the tragic fact that pampers stop children
from touching their genitals, acting like chastity belts. And in
the article you mention above, Hasselstein writes:
"The main enemy of Waldorf education is the masturbatory interest of
the child. According to Steiner little children are not egoistic,
not aggressive, not curious, not erotic, not sexual - if they are,
there are Ahrimanic forces behind it (1). Before the age of 20 or 21
sexuality is considered something pathological and perverse, so that
kids are fired from Waldorf schools, if their sexuality gets too
obvious (10). Teenagers should be distracted from puberty by the
spiritual. Younger children are beaten up. There is a case where a
Waldorf kindergarten teacher heavily slapped the face of a pre-
school boy who had exposed himself naked in front of a preschool
girl. One boy's mouth was washed with soap after he used dirty words
And, of course, anybody who doesn't think like Hasselstein is a
fascist. This is typical thinking for this kind of anti-Waldorf
This kind of filth only rots according to its own laws.
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... and Rudolf Steiner. ******Well, if that s intended to be in response to our recent discussion of the work of Trevor James Constable and his combiningMessage 4 of 5 , Oct 19, 2003View Source
"Derek Forman" <derekelleray2000@y...> wrote:
>If you visitand Rudolf Steiner.
>you will see that it is impossible to support both Wilhelm Reich
******Well, if that's intended to be in response to our recent discussion of the work of Trevor James Constable and his combining Reich's theories of orgone energy with Steiner's description of the ethers, I'd say that that's a matter of one scientific discovery being found to correspond with another----specifically, what Reich discovered and named "orgone energy" (see his book The Discovery of the Orgone) is clearly what Steiner termed "Chemical, Sound or Number Ether."
No one in any real scientific work declares that you have to accept everything some scientist says----that's cultism. I don't think in any science we say we "support" this person or that person, like they are our guru or the center of a personality cult, which unfortunately some of Reich's adherents may make him. But this is spiritual science, remember. I don't feel I have to accept all of what STEINER says, much less Wilhelm Reich---- who unfortunately went off the deep end in his last years, when he was being persecuted by the US government.
Perhaps reading Constable's scientific work, as for instance in his book The Cosmic Pulse of Life, might be a good idea in order to discuss it. He is neither an anthroposophist nor a 'follower' of Reich, but rather a scientist who found value in the work of both and applied their insights experimentally, and has demonstrated the existence of the ethers by his fascinating work, experiments that anyone else can replicate. just as with capillary dynomolysis or sensitive crystallization.
email@example.com writes: ... *******I went to that site and it was for people who deny the Holocaust ever happened. I didn t see anything attackingMessage 5 of 5 , Oct 19, 2003View Sourcelilolemissy@... writes:
I'm very glad to see these attacks against Anthroposophy brought out into the light of day, since we must be aware of how fiercely AP is being fought against. The following link shows yet another "broadside" assault:
while there are ever more sprouting up as well as other methods of outright lies, distortions, half-truths twisted in against AP! I doubt if anyone here is surprised and it would seem such onslaughts are to continue in ever more evil ways.
Blessings and Courage,
*******I went to that site and it was for people who deny the Holocaust ever happened. I didn't see anything attacking the Anthroposophical Society there.