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• Here is a rough and ready way to calculate this. Make the assumption that you get 3 miles per KWH (that will be pretty close to your actual). Now your cost
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Here is a rough and ready way to calculate this. Make the assumption that
you get 3 miles per KWH (that will be pretty close to your actual). Now
your cost will be Mile/3 * cost per KWH.

Let's say you drive an average of 500 miles per month from the charges you
do at home, and that you HOA is paying \$.10 per KWH then you would owe them

500/3 * 0.1 = \$16.67

I think that doing a calculation like that, then perhaps rounding up to \$20
would make the HOA happy.

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From: joelmeyn [mailto:joelmeyn@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:23 AM
To: force_ev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [force_ev] charging costs

Hi All
I am new to this forum with a red 97 Force.

My question is: what is the cost to charge the batteries? A vague
question indeed, but I am living in a condomium and charging in my
carport which is supplied with electricity by the HOA. Is it
necessary to acquire a PG&E meter or is there a reasonable monthly
figure I can pay to keep my neighbors happy. They all like my EV (6
out of 30 neighbors drive hybrids) but don't want to be subsidizing
me.

Additional details: charging is at 110volts until I can arrange to
install 220v. I charge at every opportunity 220v mostly, but my
average charge away from home is 10 miles away, so there is generally
10.00 aH showing on the dashboard display when I charge.
thanks,
Joel

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• Noel s calculation is a good, easy way to do this. Don t charge on 110 vac for too long. It is very hard on the charger. The 110vac option is not intended to
Message 2 of 4 , Jun 24, 2004
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Noel's calculation is a good, easy way to do this.

Don't charge on 110 vac for too long. It is very hard on the charger. The
110vac option is not intended to be the primary charge mode. There is
evidence that it causes stress on the charger. Get the 220 vac in as soon
as possible.

-Will

Will Beckett
Beckett PC Solutions
4189 Baker Ave.
Palo Alto, CA 94306-3908

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From: joelmeyn [mailto:joelmeyn@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:23 AM
To: force_ev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [force_ev] charging costs

Hi All
I am new to this forum with a red 97 Force.

My question is: what is the cost to charge the batteries? A vague
question indeed, but I am living in a condomium and charging in my
carport which is supplied with electricity by the HOA. Is it
necessary to acquire a PG&E meter or is there a reasonable monthly
figure I can pay to keep my neighbors happy. They all like my EV (6
out of 30 neighbors drive hybrids) but don't want to be subsidizing
me.

Additional details: charging is at 110volts until I can arrange to
install 220v. I charge at every opportunity 220v mostly, but my
average charge away from home is 10 miles away, so there is generally
10.00 aH showing on the dashboard display when I charge.
thanks,
Joel

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oups/S=1705083269:HM/EXP=1088180658/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://comp

:HM/A=2128215/rand=140915947>

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• I will echo Will s advice. Don t charge on the 110 for too much longer. I killed my first charger by using too much 110. I had to replace it with a new one
Message 3 of 4 , Jun 24, 2004
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I will echo Will's advice. Don't charge on the 110
for too much longer. I killed my first charger by
using too much 110. I had to replace it with a new
one from Solectria that cost \$2-3K. Not good. Put
down the money and have a 220 outlet installed ASAP.

Peter
'99 Blue Force
Palo Alto, CA

--- Will Beckett <will@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Noel's calculation is a good, easy way to do this.

Don't charge on 110 vac for too long. It is very hard
on the charger. The
110vac option is not intended to be the primary charge
mode. There is
evidence that it causes stress on the charger. Get
the 220 vac in as soon
as possible.

-Will

Will Beckett
Beckett PC Solutions
4189 Baker Ave.
Palo Alto, CA 94306-3908

(650) 269-7011 cell
(650) 494-6922 phone/fax
mailto:will@...
http://beckettpcsolutions.com
<http://beckettpcsolutions.com/>

"Let me make it easy for you!"

http://www.paloaltobni.com
<http://www.paloaltobni.com/>

a member of the Palo Alto Chamber of Commerce
http://www.paloaltochamber.com
<http://www.paloaltochamber.com/>

Support the arts, subscribe to West Bay Opera
http://www.wbopera.org
<http://www.wbopera.org/>

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From: joelmeyn [mailto:joelmeyn@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:23 AM
To: force_ev@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [force_ev] charging costs

Hi All
I am new to this forum with a red 97 Force.

My question is: what is the cost to charge the
batteries? A vague
question indeed, but I am living in a condomium and
charging in my
carport which is supplied with electricity by the HOA.
Is it
necessary to acquire a PG&E meter or is there a
reasonable monthly
figure I can pay to keep my neighbors happy. They
all like my EV (6
out of 30 neighbors drive hybrids) but don't want to
be subsidizing
me.

Additional details: charging is at 110volts until I
can arrange to
install 220v. I charge at every opportunity 220v
mostly, but my
average charge away from home is 10 miles away, so
there is generally
10.00 aH showing on the dashboard display when I
charge.
thanks,
Joel

<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129i1u9fh/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr
oups/S=1705083269:HM/EXP=1088180658/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://comp

:HM/A=2128215/rand=140915947>

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