I did point out in my original post that while the actual service
components of SOA are (IMHO) inherently non-Agile, they support an Agile
approach to building applications that use the service components (what
you're calling Business Agility, if I understand you correctly).
Overall, the improved agility at the business level more than makes up
for the loss of agility at the service level (or at least it should -
otherwise your SOA is just pouring money down a rat hole).
Dennis M. Sosnoski
SOA, Web Services, and XML
Training and Consulting
Seattle, WA +1-425-296-6194 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
Gervas Douglas wrote:
> Nick, you are of course right - I might have known someone would spot
> the intellectually dishonest discrepancy!
> I did however have a purpose. This Group, as you have probably
> observed, has a tendency to get into deeply technical discussions,
> whatever the original theme. This time I thought I would do the
> opposite and divert people's thoughts upwards to the layers that
> concern the ultimate enabling technology - money! In general I think
> proponents of SOA and its design and implementation aspects need to do
> more to keep an eye on the overall business objectives of the systems
> in question.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Nick Gall"
> <nick.gall@...> wrote:
>> On 11/1/06, Gervas Douglas <gervas.douglas@...> wrote:
>>> At a purely business level [...], a good SOA
>>> structure should make Business Agility a lot easier.
>> The compatibility between SOA and the vague concept of "Business
>> was not the original question. It was the compatibility of SOA and the
>> specific principles of Agile Methods. Just because both espouse
> agility as a
>> benefit doesn't mean they are compatible.
>> -- Nick
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