Saturday, November 01, 2008, 8:46:08 AM, Robert Biddle wrote:
> Doug Swartz wrote:
> > > Ron Jeffries wrote:
> > > I've seen teams where the PO is there ~100% of the time and others
> > > the attendance rate is less. Universally (and I do mean universally),
> > > the team functioned better when the PO's attendance approached 100%.
> > In every team and project I've worked with or on over the last
> > 9 years, the team functioned more effectively when the product
> > owner was present nearly every day.
> Sorry if I have the quotes mangled a bit.
I think they are mangled a little, but it doesn't matter.
> I certain agreely that lots of contact is good. But I don't think
> more is always better. The product owner has things to do other
> than work with the developers, and if they do not keep up with
> that other work, then it might not matter how well they work with
I don't think any of us included in the quotes above intended
to imply that the product owner is spending 100% of their time
talking with the developers. Product owners certainly have
things to do to help a product/project be succcessful other
than working directly with developers.
I believe the 100% number above (not my own statement)
referred to product owner participation in the daily meeting.
The original context was a question "Should product owners
attend the daily meeting?"
> So either I think ~100% is misguided, or I want to hear more
> about what is meant by saying the team functioned better, or more
When I say the teams I've been on or observed functioned
better and more effectively, I mean: Products were
delivered with less rework due to misunderstandings; Product
owners, developers, and other stakeholders were happier at the
end of the project; Less features were built which ended up
being unused, or little used (probably due to less
gold-plating by developers and the ability of the product
owner to steer and adjust requirements in finer increments).