> From: jcruz@...
>Subject: Re: European heraldry on Japanese garb
>On 06/09/2002 08:03:43 AM Douglas the Indecisive wrote:
> >I definately would not want to use a european eraldic shield. To me, that
> >would just completely take away for the apearance of the garment. We have
> >squire that basically dropped out of the SCA "because everyone began
> >like mundanes in bathrobes", I would FEEL like a "mundane in a bathrobe"
> >I put heraldic shields on Japanese garb!
>Isn't this somewhat missing the thrust of the "Laurel Kingdoms" argument?
Could be, but some people take the game step too far...
>I mean, the idea that we don't have to fully justify Japanese contact with
>Europe is because we're not *in* Europe, but rather the Laurel Kingdoms.
That depends on who you talk to I think... because if that were the case,
then I could cross contaminate my documentation with the arguement of "this
is the Laurel Kingdoms... I was discussing 13th century such-n-such with a
16th century so-n-so and came up with this conglomeration..."
>Well, I've been in the Laurel Kingdoms for about 16 years now . . .
>I'm guessing I could have picked up a European mannerism or two from all
>these Gaijin I'm always exposed to.
This would be the best explanation, but I'd rather present the european in
as Japanese manner as possible...
> I've been awarded arms (a few years
>back and I'm chagrinned to report I still haven't registered any, in part
>because of this exact kind of discussion), by a European King, and was told
>to get together with that King's herlad's to determine suitable arms. This
>points in the direction of using European conventions. If I can find a way
>to use Japanese style charges, that's to my plus, but unless the dominant
>paradigm has changed, it's still got to conform to European standards in
>the end. That's just the way it is in the Laurel Kingdoms. Neh?
I think the heralds are becoming more savvy to the Japanese heraldry, but
it's still gets described in a european manner... I think; I'm no herald...
>Just my two cents.
An appreciated two cents...
Douglas the Indecisive
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