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• Using this pattern for a kosode here : http://www.dementia.org/~djl/sca/japanese/patterns.html how do I figure out the measurements for the neck cutout? Math
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Using this pattern for a kosode here :
http://www.dementia.org/~djl/sca/japanese/patterns.html
how do I figure out the measurements for the neck cutout? Math is not
my thing.

Also when making hakama what is the average depth for the pleats?

Thanks.
• ... I think that s Sir Koredono s page, isn t it? Wrap a tape measure or string around your neck to determine its circumference. That number will be C. C/2 is
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, "Mara" <mnv@v...> wrote:
>
> Using this pattern for a kosode here :
> http://www.dementia.org/~djl/sca/japanese/patterns.html
> how do I figure out the measurements for the neck cutout? Math is not
> my thing.

I think that's Sir Koredono's page, isn't it? Wrap a tape measure or
string around your neck to determine its circumference. That number
will be C. C/2 is half that amount. C/4 is half of C/4. So if your
neck measures 16 inches, C2 is 8 inches, C4 is 4 inches. OK?

I prefer a shallower, more curved neck cut that Koredono does (I
probably have a daintier neck than he does), but there's no reason his
instructions won't work for you.

> Also when making hakama what is the average depth for the pleats?
Huh. Anything I've ever made with pleats I just find the end points,
then the middle, pin 'em down and start pinching in pleats by eye. I
haven't made men's hakama yet, so I can't say for certain, especially
since there will be slight variations depending on the size of the
wearer.

Guys? Can you help this lady? I'm supposed to be packing!

Saionji no Hanae, West Kingdom.
• Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! ... Why the variation? I can understand variation if people are of grossly different size, but otherwise there should be
Message 1 of 5 , Oct 10, 2005
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Noble Cousin!

Greetings from Solveig!
> Huh. Anything I've ever made with pleats I just find the end points,
> then the middle, pin 'em down and start pinching in pleats by eye. I
> haven't made men's hakama yet, so I can't say for certain, especially
> since there will be slight variations depending on the size of the
> wearer.
Why the variation? I can understand variation if people are of grossly
different size, but otherwise there should be little need for just

Solveig Throndardottir
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• ... Guessing for big gaijin bodies being put into little Japanese clothing. Scale CAN be an issue for some people. And, as I said, I haven t actually made a
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--- In sca-jml@yahoogroups.com, Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@a...>
wrote:
> Why the variation? I can understand variation if people are of grossly
> different size, but otherwise there should be little need for just

Guessing for big gaijin bodies being put into little Japanese
clothing. Scale CAN be an issue for some people. And, as I said, I
haven't actually made a pair yet of men's hakama. Yet. ;->

Saionji
• Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! Baron Edward came up with a rather modest scale factor which appears to work. I think that it was no more than 10%. I
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Noble Cousin!

Greetings from Solveig! Baron Edward came up with a rather modest scale
factor which appears to work. I think that it was no more than 10%. I
forget what exactly it was. Perhaps he will post it. My basic point
though is that wafuku is not generally speaking "fitted".

Solveig Throndardottir
Amateur Scholar

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