I wish things were as simple and straightforward as Jim's "vision", in his email below.
But who knows? Maybe Pfizer will fulfill what I feel is their responsibility, concerning the establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the cure it is.
After all, Pfizer pledged $35 Million for the Tsunami victims. Rosacea may not seem as harsh as the Tsunami, but it is...., especially since estimated hundreds of millions suffer with rosacea.
Even a few UNBIASED million dollars spent by Pfizer on Clinical Trials to help refine this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure, would both cure thousands of rosaceans, and also might improve this treatment/cure.
I'm just very uncomfortable, not knowing which way Pfizer might jump in this matter, as at:
I've removed Jim's email address, to protect him from possible "attack" by "rosacea-profiteers".
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming --- TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOWS, (in reverse chronological order) ---
Dave Fleming wrote:
Thank you for your thoughtful suggestions. And I do hope that you let me know your results, when you obtain and use this Rx.
I'm posting this answer on the "rosacea-cure" board, so some of what I've written to you here is meant for "public consumption".
I want to assure you, Jim, that it is not any "passion" on my part, that has driven me. It is a simple recognition on my part, that so many rosaceans are suffering, and they could get rid of this disease.
Also, the Yahoo! Company offers these free groups, which are very easy to start. About ten days after I first posted on the "rosacea-support" group board, they BANNED me, so I did what I had to, (i.e. I started "rosacea-cure" in May 2003), to get this word out.
So, as I understand it, this treatment/cure was a gift to me from God, and I'm just trying to pass the info on as best I can, as just about anyone would do.
Of course, I agree that your thinking and ideas on this are extremely sensible, and certainly succinct. Some talk in this vein was covered long ago here, as at:
So you have not included the possible existence of dark "status-quo-evil" and "corruption", in your advice and thoughts to me.
From what I can tell, a PhD "researcher", (i.e. Geoffrey Nase), is the main "instigator" of the website for so-called "rosacea research" that you have mentioned. Nase has proven himself to be "unrelentingly negative", (to put it nicely), concerning this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure, during the entire 21 months since I announced this in April/May 2003.
Of course, Nase has a lot to lose, if this treatment/cure reaches all rosaceans rapidly, including the end of the sale of his book(s) on rosacea.
And Nase has sworn publicly, that he would never even consider "trying" or "researching" this cure, (which is, logically speaking, obviously because he knows that it does cure rosacea).
From the "evidence" available, it is only logical that Brady Barrows, (BB), also knows that this med cures rosacea. If you look at BB's photos, with his "diary", he appears to be the happiest man alive, with no rosacea.
If you read BB's "diary" of his claimed use of this treatment/cure, as at:
BB has a lot of positive things to say about it, (even though his bottom line goal appears to be to convince rosaceans to NOT TRY IT, and NOT ACCEPT IT AS A CURE).
So, after just 141 days of treatment, (he originally made repeated public promises that he would try it for 18 months), he states simply that he will continue to use it "for pustules", but that it did not cure his rosacea.
BB seemed to become enraged, because he was claiming that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] worked best/only with the "creams" that he was, (and still is), marketing, in the last half of his "diary", and I publicly rebuked him for trying to associate my name with his claims for these "creams".
Since then, (i.e. September 7, 2004), BB has become strangely silent, about [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], other than to post and emphasize Nase's "warnings" against DMSO, and to delete or refuse to post all of my answers, (on the "rosaceans" board BB owns), to Nase's absurd and/or deceptive "warning" claims.
As the only other prominent "public player" in this issue, BB has far less "formal education" than does Nase. But Barrows has proven to be far more subtle, "slippery", and effective than Nase, in slowing/stopping the establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the cure for all rosacea that I believe it to be.
Since this situation does indeed have some complexity, BB has had plenty of excuses, (and opportunities), to "muddy the water", and he has done just that.
My judgment concerning BB at this point, is that he will never promote [DMSO + fluconazole] as the treatment/cure it is, unless he can see more profit in it than he appears to currently be making from "rosacea control" companies like Zenmad. The timing on those Cyclops Zenmad ads, is that they popped up prominently all over BB's hundreds of "web pages", at about the same time he stated that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] had NOT cured his rosacea.
And Barrows, exactly like Nase, is continuously wrangling to collect money for supposedly needed "rosacea research".
Strange, isn't it? Their calls for this "research" have only become strident and organized since my announcement of this treatment/CURE for rosacea, and after it has become obvious to them that this cure has not "gone away", after about 20 months of their best efforts to discredit it.
In fact, there appear to be a lot of "smoke screens" being used to "dress up" the relationship, between Barrows and Nase. Is it possible, that they're playing a "good cop, bad cop" game on rosaceans, with their goals being identical in this matter???
Certainly, they have both done whatever they could, both to discredit me, and to slow/stop the establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the first-ever cure for rosacea.
My recommendation to all rosaceans, is to NOT be misled and deceived by "rosacea-profiteer-research".
Even if they were completely honest and sincere, (ROFL), does it make any sense whatsoever, (given the advent of this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] cure for rosacea), to allow "rosacea-profiteers" to be involved with deciding how money should be spent for "rosacea research"???
It would make just as much sense to put egg-sucking dogs to work, guarding a "rosacea research" henhouse.
And do they really need your money? No.
Do they need your involvement ONLY to lend credibility to skewed, half-truth-lies-rosacea-research that will be gladly funded by "rosacea-profiteers"?
Do they need the involvement of innocent rosaceans only to obtain and maintain a "non-profit" status with the IRS?
In the end, are these folks going to get burned to a crisp, because they are playing with fire?... Duh! So now, the "rosacea-profiteer-researchers" have been given fair warning.... Will jail terms for fraud be their proper end? Yessireebob, especially if I have anything to say about it....
I must say, Jim, that you place much more trust in a humungus pharmaceutical company like Pfizer, than I believe you should. I believe that you are correct, that "(making a profit)" motivates such a company.
But the dynamics are incredibly far ranging, because Pfizer executives might prefer to sell "treatments/controls" for rosacea, ad-infinitum, rather than sell the cure for rosacea, that would relatively quickly end almost all profits from this disease. I can think of many, many other conceivable/possible scenarios, that could/would lead to Pfizer execs wanting to "bury" this [DMSO + fluconazole] cure.
You might think that I'm being too cynical. But you have to admit, that Pfizer can read the "rosacea-cure" board as easily as you can, (since May 2003), and no knowledge has come to me that Pfizer is willing to spend any money to help establish this cure, yet.
I don't really judge Pfizer harshly, for their lack of action thus far in this matter. The following may be some of the reasons for Pfizer's inaction:
1) [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is already being prescribed, (and also mixed and used without a Rx), for rosacea, worldwide, so Pfizer may feel no need to "promote" it, because they simply may not care about all the suffering caused by the delay of this cure, in reaching all of the estimated two hundred million rosaceans, worldwide.
2) This is far from being an "easy" or "perfect" cure, since it requires many repetitive applications for months, is uncomfortable, and may not "remove" the damage already done by the rosacea, after sometimes decades of having rosacea. I'm not a lawyer, but I will say that this is therefore a hard sell, which might even cause "liability insurance" problems for Pfizer, with their "deep pockets".
3) A USA doctor's prescription for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is a sort of "orphan", in the USA "medical system", as explained at:
so this intrinsically difficult "gray area" may not be so encouraging to Pfizer.
4) In much of the world, both DMSO and fluconazole/Diflucan are available legally without a doctor's prescription, (from what I can find out). Since it is so easy to "mix it at home", as at:
, Pfizer has less financial incentive to promote this cure, because they could never easily get away with jacking up the price much for [DMSO + fluconazole], later.
5) In a situation as profound and as complex as this, it normally takes time for the "powers that be", to sort themselves out, and for new channels of supply and profit for this med to be worked out.
As a NEW THERAPUTIC PRINCIPLE, this first-ever cure for rosacea, (and for many other diseases), is like an earthquake, that causes a lot of chaos, before new "structures" of profit and availability of [DMSO + fluconazole] can be "created".
Perhaps Pfizer is more active than we know, in this matter.
I certainly hope and pray that they help to make this med available at reasonable prices, rather than doing anything to try to hinder this development.
The bottom line, as I understand it, is that at least some fluconazole is being manufactured overseas, outside Pfizer's control, so Pfizer does not have the option of easily "burying" the availability of [DMSO + fluconazole].
But Pfizer certainly could massively, (and relatively quickly), facilitate this med's credibility and availability, if they chose to....
I do hope that Pfizer does do something to help establish this treatment/cure, at some future point, because it is obvious that "rosacea-profiteers" are continuing to gear-up, to try to slow/stop the establishment of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] as a cure for rosacea.
One obvious plan these "rosacea-profiteers" have, is to introduce many false "red herring rosacea cures", (which they've already been doing --- believe it or not, one is called "Anti-sense", ROFL).
They will also most likely directly attack DMSO and/or [DMSO + fluconazole] with skewed "rosacea-research" lies and half-truth-lies, "ever the blackest of lies", (as they've already been doing).
They've also been "muddying the water" by emphasizing that rosacea is not well "defined", and that it's not diagnosed accurately. This is the easiest of their ploys to defeat, since [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] causes changes in appearance or stinging in the skin ONLY when it's needed, (with no effect on healthy skin).
Therefore, you do not have to define or diagnose the problem; just try the med one time, and you know whether it will help you or not.
In fact, I have pointed out many times, that this med is the first means of easily diagnosing rosacea, because it has virtually no effect on healthy skin, while it causes profound changes/effects/healing on rosaceous skin.
You have suggested that I "provide Pfizer with my data". That sounds reasonable, but you have to admit that Pfizer certainly does NOT need MY help, to defeat these "rosacea-profiteers". Therefore, I foresee no good reason for me to provide any "private data" to Pfizer, both because they don't NEED it, and for many other reasons. Also, Michael Roberge, RPh, has always been available to talk with anyone, from his Compounding Pharmacist's viewpoint. He has a website at:
I would, however, be very happy to cooperate on a day-by-day basis with Pfizer. I'd also be extremely grateful for any help Pfizer might accomplish, such as even very minimal clinical trials, at least to nail down whether higher percentages of fluconazole in the DMSO might be more effective or not.
And, come to think of it, a certain amount of delay is possibly better at this time, so that these "rosacea-profiteers" are allowed lots and lots of rope, which can be used to hang them, once they have spent lots and lots of money on "researching" and telling their lies and half-truth-lies to distract from or to discredit [DMSO + fluconazole].
So I'm not likely to get too excited, about any actions by "rosacea-profiteer-researchers". My belief, is that they will waste a lot of money, AND pay the price for their actions, to a Higher Power.
They probably think that they have nothing to lose, but at the very least, that good ol' Lake Of Fire awaits them, and promises to be so much worse than any profit-loss they're fighting to avoid....
Meanwhile, on a concurrent time-line, word-of-mouth within the medical community will continue to carry the news of this first-ever cure for rosacea, rhinophyma, probably ocular rosacea, and certainly many other diseases.
No amount of disinformation on the Internet can stop this news.
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, NO ROSACEAN SHOULD BE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO HELP THEM, BY PARTICIPATING IN SUCH OBVIOUSLY BIASED "ROSACEA-RESEARCH/DEVELOPMENT", RUN BY THE VERY PEOPLE THAT PROFIT EVERY DAY FROM "TREATING/CONTROLING/SUPPORTING/DEVELOPING" ROSACEA.
Here's a snicker. It's interesting and amusing to note, that "rosacea-support" is a grammatically incorrect name, and so is "Rosacea Research And Development". If it were for the sake of rosaceans, it would be "rosacean-support". But supporting rosacea, (to keep rosaceans suffering), is the correct grammatical meaning for "rosacea-support". Also, "rosacea development" has the same reverse grammatical meaning, connotating that rosaceans can be kept suffering by the "Development" of rosacea.
I think that this type of "mistake" is called a "Freudian Slip", which is known to reveal the true motives/thinking, of those making the "slip". :-D
Just an aside snicker, folks. I know that it's debatable, but I was laughing a lot about these "Slips" recently, and I just had to share.... :-D
To sum up, Jim, it seems to me that "word of mouth", within the medical community, is the best means we have at present, of spreading the news of this discovery. Positive actions by Pfizer would certainly speed that up a lot, but I've never known what to expect from Pfizer, because it is so huge, as well as being one of the "Pharmaceutical Giants" that are labeled as "bogeymen" by many, in the present USA "medical culture".
You have offered your assistance Jim, so I will ask you, and everyone reading this, to please find ways of convincing Pfizer to fund even minimal UNBIASED Clinical Trials with [DMSO + fluconazole]. I have never wanted to approach Pfizer, because I'm cynical and cautious, about such a huge corporate entity. Their current "Motto", in their TV ads, states:
***** PFIZER --- For A Happier, Healthier, Longer Life *****
If they obey their motto, concerning [DMSO + fluconazole],
they certainly should be willing to spend the relatively
very small amount that minimal (???-UNBIASED-???) Clinical
Trials might cost, in this situation.
So you have certainly raised a good point, Jim, and Pfizer may be the only folks with the clout to devastate these pesky "rosacea-profiteer-researchers".
Thank you for your kind words and positivity, Jim.
Please let me know how you progress with this med. I expect that your 41 years of suffering with rosacea will end during the coming months. This treatment/cure may not be easy, but it is the "real McCoy"....
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:35:28 -0500
Subject: Rosacea cure
I just bumped into your site as I was cruising the health care sites. I
want to thank you for the time and effort that you have put into this
passionate work of yours. You are a true gift to all Rosacea sufferers!
I have had rosacea for 41 years and know the heartaches. I have tried
many treatments with very limited success. Never a cure in mind just
keeping it under control. I am going to see if I can find a doctor to
prescribe your find.
On a more important note, you are attempting to spread the word and
get this new "cure" accepted by the masses. I believe that you need to
start with the source - a pharmaceutical company thereby establishing
credibility and a means of getting the "word" out through mass
Since both companents of the "cure" are FDA approved
(DMSO & Fluconazole), the next step would be to contact the bigger
of the 2 manufacturers and provide them with your data (include all
those that you know of that have had success with the topical compound).
If I was the manufacturer of either solution, I would jump at a chance
to market a product that is already approved for sale and that has a
"cure" potential - not merely a treatment of symptoms.
The manufacturer of this new compound (DMSO + 10% Fluconazole) would be
able to run the necessary double blind studies, determine the best
composition of the 2 solutions and the appropriate treatment regimen,
and be able to promote the product to doctors and patients
through an established marketing arm of the company.
They would be able to reach more people in a month than you
could do in the rest of your life. I am certainly not belittling your
efforts nor your wonderful results to date. I am merely suggesting that
it is a very big world and many need to get the word from a credible
source in an expeditious manner in order for mass acceptance to occur.
Just my thoughts - if I can be of any assistance, let me know.
I will let you know of my progress in getting a prescription.
May God continue to bless you,
P.S. I came across this new site. http://[website deleted]/ It
appears that this foundation is relatively new, run by Rosacea
sufferers, and are fed up with the lack of efforts by the medical
community to date on Rosacea.
If these people are truly in this for a cure, may be a good
place to start. I wouldn't be too concerned about the medical community
opposing this product as long as the product is approved by the FDA
(components already are) and a member of the club (major
pharmaceutical) will be a major player (making a profit).
Unfortunately that's how this game is played.
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