Hello again Chris,
I see you've already posted the relevant messages to the livefood and
primal diet Yahoo groups. There is only one other large RPD Yahoo group,
namely the RAV-Food one ( http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RAV-Food/
), which might prove useful to you right now. It's become more active of
late, compared to the other groups, and is refreshingly free of dogma.(You
can always see if there are specific smaller Yahoo groups of Primal
Dieters/RPDers who might come from your specific area. Last I checked,
there are already several much smaller splinter groups, such as Christian
primal diet and tulsaprimaldiet, and more will certainly appear over time.
The other option is to contact Aajonus himself via optimal@...
He's sure to know several people in your immediate area. He may even know
if they will be turning up at specific potlucks/consultations etc. in the
Re Organic:- It isn't always that essential to get organic meat. Conversion
to organic is usually very expensive and some farmers can't afford it,
even if they don't practice intensive farming and treat their animals well.
In the unlikelihood that you don't find a relevant organic farmer, you
should look for a farmer who gives his meat the "naturally-reared" label, as
that usually(though not always) means that the meat is of organic standard,
even if it is not officially recognised as such. The other thing to do
would be to look around for farmers who rear very rare breeds of pig/cattle
etc. They usually take much better care of their animals than farmers with
more conventional breeds. It's also been suggested by a long-term RPDer
on the RAV-Food group that one should seek out new sources by asking
managers of local, expensive restaurants offering high-quality wild game
etc. - they often get the meat at a much cheaper rate from local hunters.
As to this group being somewhat inactive, that's entirely my fault. I
haven't had much time to get round to sending out relevant e-mails and
shorten the introductory paragraphs to a more intelligible summary etc.
There's a hell of a lot of waffle to cut out first.
I initially started the group for experimental purposes because I felt that
the main RPD Yahoo groups weren't really allowing full discussion by
members who wished to follow a fully raw, palaeolithic diet. Some groups
don't allow discussion re food-intolerance towards raw dairy, for example,
while others promote the eating of cooked food a bit too heavily, frowning
on those who mention health problems with cooked food. A number of us do
have to eat cooked food for purely social reasons, on occasion, which I
perfectly understand, I just don't think that it's relevant to promote
cooked food on a raw-food forum - There are 1000s of other Yahoo groups
which are better suited for such discussions.
>From: "chris_schunemann" <chris_schunemann@...>
>Subject: [rawpalaeolithicdiet] New member
>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:39:21 -0000
>This group doesn't look too active but maybe that will change.
>Hi Geoff, this is Chris Schunemann.
>After being totally sidetracked yet again I'm back with the goal of
>establishing a raw paleo diet. I'm looking for any source I can
>reasonably drive to on a weekly basis. The first thing I'm doing is
>looking up every related yahoo group and asking for anyone who lives
>in the San Francisco Bay Area or Sacramento Valley. Hopefully I'll
>I can't seem to find a separate strictly organic farmers market
>association for california, there seems to be only one. Judging from
>its list there are about three dozen farmers' markets within driving
>distance of me. I'm hoping they won't all be plant dominated.
>If you come across anyone that may be near me be sure to let me know.