Dina's theory is very interesting. Hope that one day it can be tested in
laboratory or other conditions. I have some reservation about the
assumption of Qi.
First, external qigong therapy is not completely about qi, or emission of
something physical, it is about both qi and yi (intention or
consciousness). Without appropriate intention or yi, the same qi can be
used to accelerate or inhibit cell growth. One of important elements in
qigong practice is training of yi, to be able to concentrate on one thing
or nothing for a long time....
Second, The key to achieve reproducibility in study of external qi is to
use the same healer at the same condition repeatedly. Please see the
reproducibility of my studies with one healer:
However, even with the same healer, I had problem reproducing the results
months later as the conditions changed (the healer tried to quit smoking
during the second trial). If you use different healers at different times,
you may have problems in one of the following aspects of external qigong
limitation, no matter how many trials you are going to perform:
1) Not all qigong practitioners know how to emit external qi. A good
qigong practitioner or a qualified instructor is not necessarily a good
qigong healer who can emit qi.
2) Not all qigong masters or healers are the same, different training or
background may affect their healing ability.
3) Not all qigong masters know how to emit qi effectively unless he or she
has been trained to do so with a lot of practice.
4) For specific experiment, the healer needs time to be trained to perform
the designed study or action consistently, since he or she may forget what
intention he/she used in the previous trial, and use a different intention
that may produce a different result.
5) In order to reproduce the previous experiment result, the researcher
need to take detailed notes on what were involved in both physically and
psychologically, and encourage the healer to do the same, and replicate
immediately before repeating the same study at a later time point.
Especially at the in-vitro or in-vivo study, the healer does not have the
direct intuitional communication with the subject, like he did in patient
healing, he/she needs some established "protocol" to follow in order to
achieve the same "healing" or "affected" result.
6) If multiple healers are required in the study, try to use the healers
from the same qigong school or tradition, or being trained by the same
master so as to minimize the variations due to different qigong training.
Qigong is not created for external use, even although study of external qi
will help us understanding this human subtle energy within. We have very
limited resource involved in qigong study, and we have very few qualified
qigong healers who can effectively emit qi in the laboratory situation.
Therefore, I hope that we will use our resource carefully and effectively.
My review of measuring external qi in China may offer you some insight on
Please feel free to comment and make suggestions.
At 07:36 AM 12/6/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>I've read your comments on "In vitro test of external Qigong" with great
>interest and would like to suggest an explanation to the not consistent
>I've suggested couple of years ago that the gas Nitric Oxide is the carreir
>of qi, e.g.
>If indeed so that it will be influenced by numerous environmental changes
>that could affect the data, It will be interesting to influence it on
>purpose and demonstrate such relations.
>I am enclosing my recent article which was just submitted for publication
>and will appreciate your comments.
>Dr. Dina Ralt
>Integrative Health Coach - IGL
>From: Ken Gray [mailto:Kgray2@...]
>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [qiresearch] Digest Number 365
>Thank you Linda Lazarus for the pubmed link to the qigong experiment. These
>are the kind of experiments with rigor that must be done to establish
>legitimacy to qigong healing projection. Everything else is anecdotal.
>However, the one part I find puzzling and disturbing about these studies is,
>as the authors found, the lack of reproducibility. I'd like to hear others'
>opinions regarding the results.
Kevin W Chen, Ph.D. MPH
Associate Professor of Psychiatry
University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ)
President, World Institute for Self-Healing, Inc. (WISH)
Tel: 732-235-4345 Fax: 732-235-5818