I agree, much more needs to be done to stop more countries from
getting nuclear weapons, and those that already have them should be
encouraged to get rid of them. I don't really expect that to happen
though, unfortunately. I'm glad Bush has chosen to pressure various
countries to not develop nuclear weapons, but I'd note that his
pressure on Iran and North Korea may have driven those governments to
fear an immiment American invasion and thus speed up their nuclear
programs to stop that from happening. And, of course, Bush doesn't
pressure countries like Pakistan, India, or Israel to give up their
nuclear weapons, because they're our allies. For that matter, what
about the U.S. itself?
And it's not just in the area of nuclear weapons that more could be
done for, as you put it, "Communication instead of violence". But on
the subject of nuclear weapons, Sam Nunn put it much better than I
could in this article:
US 'no example' for non-proliferation
From correspondents in Washington
March 10, 2005
From: Agence France-Presse
US President George W. Bush has not set an example to persuade allies
to join nuclear non-proliferation efforts in Iran and North Korea,
former US senator Sam Nunn said today.
"We have to have other countries to put pressure on Iran, we have to
have other countries to put pressure on North Korea, like Japan, like
China, like South Korea and get those countries to really join in
enthusiastically," Mr Nunn spoke to reporters at the National Press
Club in Washington.
"It's awfully hard to ask countries around the globe to do a lot more
to fight against the North Koreans or the Iranians getting nuclear
weapons if we ourselves seem to be increasing our dependence on
nuclear weapons," Mr Nunn said.
"We have to have an example we are setting ourselves."
The 24-year Democratic senator from Georgia chairs the Nuclear Threat
Initiative, an private group opposing nuclear proliferation.
He specifically criticised Bush administration Pentagon plans to build
a so-called bunker-buster bomb, a nuclear weapon designed to penetrate
hardened, underground facilities where leaders, personnel or weapons
could be hidden.
"We're not devaluating nuclear weapons. We're putting more emphasis on
nuclear weapons," Mr Nunn said.
"I think that is a real mistake and I hope that it will be reversed in
Mr Nunn also said the Bush administration and Europe had missed
opportunities to work together in attempting to defuse Iraq's nuclear
"We got to have carrots and sticks," he said.
"The Europeans have to be willing to do a lot more and get a lot
tougher if the Iranians do not give up their nuclear abilities.
"We have to be willing to put some things on the table both
diplomatically and in other ways, with the Europeans while they're
making this effort.
"Both the Europeans and the US have to do a lot more to listen to each
other and a coordinate their approach vis-a-vis Iran," Mr Nunn said.
"I think you need carrots and sticks."
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, "tonymaloley" <am7788zz@m...>
> This doesn't matter, because the home of the Taliban already has the
> bomb. That's right, beautiful Pakistan, the country that chooses its
> leaders by coup.
> The odds are pretty good that some city is going to get nuked. I
> hope one city is enough. People don't tend to believe logical
> arguments, they have to see the proof. It takes someone getting
> killed before they bother putting up the "Dangerous Intersection"
> This stuff could degenerate into an all out nuclear holy war. We
> really need to get the muslims to join the rest of the world. We
> need to get various religions to start accepting that this world and
> this life is precious, and not an insignificant means to an end.
> Communication instead of violence. I guess I'm probably preaching to
> the choir, or, I guess, the duet. -Tony
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Greg Cannon
> <gregcannon1@y...> wrote:
> > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?
> > Russia to Deliver Nuclear Fuel to Iran
> > Sun Feb 27, 8:40 AM ET
> > By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer
> > BUSHEHR, Iran - Russia and Iran (news - web sites)
> > signed a deal Sunday that would deliver nuclear fuel
> > to the Middle East country for the startup of its
> > first reactor a project the United States had for
> > years pushed Moscow to drop, claiming Iran is trying
> > to build a nuclear bomb.
> > Iranian Vice President Gholamreza Aghazadeh and
> > Russian Atomic Energy Agency chief Alexander
> > Rumyantsev signed the agreement at the Bushehr nuclear
> > power plant. The signing, which was delayed by a day,
> > came after the two senior officials toured the $800
> > million complex.
> > "Today, a very important development occurred, and
> > that was the protocol on returning nuclear fuel, which
> > we signed together. In the next few weeks many Russian
> > technicians will arrive in Bushehr" to finish the
> > plant, Rumyantsev said after the signing.
> > Both officials refused to discuss the details of
> > shipping the nuclear fuel to Iran and the spent fuel
> > back to Russia, but insisted that the agreement
> > conforms to international nuclear regulations.
> > "Iran observes all the regulations on the prohibition
> > of the spread of nuclear weapons," Rumyantsev said.
> > Russia, which helped build the plant, has agreed to
> > provide the fuel needed to run it but only if Iran
> > returns the spent fuel to prevent any possibility
> > Tehran would extract plutonium from it to make atomic
> > bombs. Tehran has agreed to return the spent fuel, but
> > the sides disagreed on who should pay for its return.
> > Both officials said Sunday they had agreed on details
> > of the shipment, but said the timing and the costs
> > including who would pay for what were confidential.
> > The signing came a few days after a summit between
> > President Bush (news - web sites) and Russian
> > President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) in
> > Slovakia, which touched on American concerns over
> > Russian support for Iran's nuclear program.
> > Washington accuses Tehran of covertly trying to build
> > a nuclear bomb, which Iran denies. Putin has said he
> > is sure Iran's intentions are merely to generate
> > energy, not create weapons, and that Russian
> > cooperation with Tehran would continue.
> > It wasn't immediately clear whether Thursday's
> > Bush-Putin summit had delayed the signing, which had
> > been expected Saturday, but Mohammad Saeedi, deputy
> > head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization said "the
> > Bush-Putin talks did not have an effect on the
> > agreement. Our talks (with the Russians) have been
> > successful."
> > Just ahead of the signing, Aghazadeh showed Rumyantsev
> > Bushehr's nuclear fuel storage house and the reactor
> > core, expected to be operational by late 2005 or early
> > 2006.
> > "What I saw was much better and more than I had
> > expected. Assembling operations in the past three to
> > four months have been expedited," Rumyantsev said.
> > Referring to the process to complete the plant, he
> > added: "I can't say the situation is excellent, but
> > it's very good."
> > Aghazadeh said the fuel storage area was built to
> > international standards. "This storage house is ready
> > to receive nuclear fuel," he said.
> > Iranian efforts to produce its own fuel rather than
> > importing it have been a bigger concern in the
> > international community than the deal with Russia.
> > That's because the enrichment process can be carried
> > further to produce material for nuclear weapons.
> > France, Britain and Germany are trying to secure an
> > Iranian commitment to scrap enrichment plans in
> > exchange for economic aid, technical support and
> > backing for Tehran's efforts to join mainstream
> > international organizations. Iran has suspended
> > enrichment-related activities during the talks with
> > the Europeans, which both sides have said were
> > difficult, but insists the freeze will be brief.
> > Bush has expressed support for the European efforts.
> > But documents being circulated among International
> > Atomic Energy Agency board members in Vienna ahead of
> > a board meeting Monday, and seen by The Associated
> > Press there, indicated Washington would try to
> > increase pressure on Tehran by the next agency board
> > meeting in June should the European talks fail.