There was a sketch called The Black Shadow when Bill Russell hosted Saturday Night Live. He had a team of geeky white kids, only one of whom is now a United States Senator, and the sketch begins in the locker room. |
Russell is giving out pre-game encouragement when Senator Franken, wearing thick glasses and a headband, jumps up off the locker room bench and proclaims:
"We hate the Visitors!"
The observe is contained in a baseball song: "Let me root, root, root, for the home team, if they don't win it's a shame!"
In recent years, one could root for Hank Poteat and Ty Law, or Adam Vinatieri. All I can come up with on the
current Jets is Damien Woody, and with Vinatieri unlikely to be called on to kick, the only Colt whose even an honorary Patriot is Tom Bradys' Favorite Receiver, aka Antoine Bethea.
San Diego, New Orleans, and Arizona have never won the Super Bowl. Indy, the Jets, Dallas, Baltimore and Brett Favre have. I understand there are Saints and Cardinals who have won the Super Bowl individually, but to me, only Brett Favre disqualifies his entire team this way.
I hope for good football, but to say anything so silly as "I hate the Visitors" is beyond me in a sport where, with player movement, we're basically rooting for the laundry. The best I can do is to say "I hate those 1960 Denver uniforms."
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Mike Benson <mbenson321@...> wrote:
From: Mike Benson <mbenson321@...>
Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Re: A good old-fashioned asskicking.
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 5:01 PM
I hear you, George. You'd never root for the Jets against anyone other than Al Qaeda and you feel the same way about the Colts and the Cowboys:) But what happens if the Jets play the Colts for the AFC Championship? Who would you root for then?
I also understand you don't feel any loyalty to the AFC East or even the AFC and other folks here have expressed the same sentiment. And I respect that. But I do feel a loyalty. Which is why I'll be rooting for the Jets, since I believe they represent the AFC East now and I want them to make us proud.
I've just never been a hater of other teams, George. I find it petty, unsportsmanlike and a waste of energy. IMHO, at least. I was brought up on chanting "2-4-6-8, who do we appreciate" after a little
game, win or lose. But that's just me. Hey, football doesn't have to end just because the Pats are out of it, George! There's a ton of great games ahead! And the Super Bowl is still a month away! Kick back and enjoy!
From: George <patswingr@...>
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 10:14:03 PM
Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Re: A good old-fashioned asskicking.
If Al Qaeda had a team in the NFL, I'd root for the Jets against
them. Never against any other team! And I feel the same way about Polian's
Colts, and Jerry Jones' Cowboys.
My less than enthusiastic support now goes for a Saints - Chargers
Super Bowl, with a Saints victory; although I wouldn't feel badly if the
Chargers won it.
I don't feel any "loyalty" to the AFC East; or to the AFC, for that
matter. I always rooted for the AFC during the first 15 years or so after the
merger. But that old AFL loyalty is ancient history now. I'm strictly a "team by
team" guy today, with the Patriots at one level, and all other teams that I
like several miles below them. Then comes a bunch of "neutrals", and a handful
on my "most hated" list.
From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
[mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Re: A good
Your points are well taken. There are many obvious differences. However, I
still think a Jets/Ravens match up is by far the most interesting AFC
Championship possibility. Rex Ryan would be facing his old team -- a team whose
success he was an integral part of. If it happens, I'll be rooting for the Jets
as they represent our division now. It would be a real street fight.
From: "kmacalp@aol. com"
Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 6:08:59
Subject: [patriotzip] Re: A
good old-fashioned asskicking.
<Mike B.> Rex Ryan would have to face the Baltimore defense he built.
It reminds me of
the 2003 Raiders/Tampa Bay match-up in Super Bowl XXXVII. If
you recall, Jon
Gruden, who was the Raiders' head coach from 1998 to 2001,
Buccaneers coach in 2002. It was "Gruden's old team"
"Gruden's new team" -- just like it could be with Rex Ryan facing
Ravens. In Gruden's case, he not only won, he knew exactly what the
would do by the formation they lined up in (offensively and
even by the audibles they called. The Raiders were roundly
criticized for not changing
up their playbook or at the very least,
disguising it from Gruden.I'd love to see what Ryan would do in this
<Scott> There's an important difference. The Raiders replaced Gruden
with Callahan, an offensive assistant on Gruden's Raiders staff, who kept the
exact same offense. The Ravens hired an outsider, a college coach, to be their
new defensive coordinator. The Ravens' current defense is similar to Ryan's, but
it has a number of differences as well. In fact, earlier in the year when the
Ravens defense was struggling, commentators attributed it in part to learning to
do some things differently than they had under Ryan. So Ryan won't be seeing the
same exact system he left behind. Another difference is that Gruden inherited a
terrific defense with smart veterans in key spots with which to exploit his
knowledge of the Raiders' offense. Ryan has a great running game, but a very sub
par QB. (I think Sanchez can be excellent one day, but right now he is one of
the league's worst starting QBs.) The QB is the one who is going to be making
reads, on the field decisions, and calling audibles to adjust if the defense
starts shifting around just before a play. The Jets can only win by minimizing
Sanchez's role as they did against the Bengals, e.g. not throwing very often,
and usually throwing it only when the opponent is overplaying the run etc., etc.
So he's not a very good conduit through which to exploit any knowledge Ryan
may still have of the opposing defense.
So the Ravens run a slightly different defense, BUT the Ravens players do
know Ryan's defense. Plus, Flacco is the better QB right now. So the Ravens will
have a better field general out there to exploit their knowledge of the
opponent's defense. (I'd expect both QBs to struggle, but Flacco would probably
come out on top.)
It might not be a high scoring game for the winner, but I'd expect the Jets
to be shut out.