GLORY TO JESUS CHRIST - GLORY TO HIM FOREVER
I am replying to this post because #1 I am Russian Orthodox, #2 I now am a member of a wonderful ROCOR mission #3 I was a member of a great OCA parish, and #4 I know people who are members of an MP parish in this country (USA).
I am wondering if instead of us telling the other jurisdiction how EVIL, and WRONG they are, why don't we try praying to the Holy Spirit for help in this matter? Some times I think that we are our own worst enemy. I always thought that we are to pray for our enemies, whoever they may be. I almost cry when I see how one Orthodox jurisdiction accuses the other of being communist, or full of Masons, or what ever. Could we look for the goodness in others? Please
Yours in Christ,
> wrote:Dear List,
As father Alexander says, there are hardly any canonical rules that
are more strict than those that forbid clergy and laity to separate
themselves from their bishops and create a schismatic group. (Message
The schismatic Moscow Patriarchate is a product of the Soviet regime;
its bishops were in the service of the KGB, or were recruited by the
security services of the Soviet government. The MP schism was born
ideologically following the 1927 schismatic Declaration of Met.
Sergius, and legally established as a Soviet institution on Stalin's
personal order on September, 4, 1943. It was organised by the NKVD
during a two week-schismatic council that appointed Met. Sergius as
its schismatic "Patriarch". The schismatic hierarchy of the MP has
the same relation to the Russian Orthodox Church as the Soviet
communist power to the historical Russia that existed before the 1917
The Russian Orthodox Church Abroad originates from the historical
Russian Orthodox Church which has been in existence since the baptism
of Russia until 1918. The legitimacy of the presence of the ROCA
abroad is illustrated by the establishment abroad, of the first
Russian churches in the 17th century as a consequence of the
diplomatic and cultural relationship that Russia had with many
countries: in Stockholm since 1640, in London since 1710, in North
America since 1783, in China since 1795, in South America since 1889
Joseph took Jesus and his pure mother to Egypt to escape the
persecution of the Tyrant. Later, when the persecutor died, he
returned with the holy Family to his homeland. In the same way,
Russia is the natural and legitimate homeland to the ROCA, from which
her clergy fled together with three-million flock, to escape the
persecution of the Tyrant.
Some bishops in our Church suggest that the schismatic MP is
our "Mother Church", that we should join it and that refusing to do
so is being schismatic and fanatic. They insist on the fact that they
have authority on us and that therefore, we must obey them and follow
their schismatic path. They do not specify whether those views are
private or official, but they clearly define their deeds.
Must we obey those bishops if we do not want to go into schism?
Remember, there are hardly any canonical rules that are more strict
than those that forbid clergy and laity to separate themselves from
their bishops and create a schismatic group.
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