... Paul -- you know I m a convert, right? I think I have identified myself as such before. And as a non-Russian convert, I stand by my prior statement. NoMessage 1 of 32 , Jun 1, 2004View SourceAt 08:16 PM 5/31/2004, you wrote:
>On Mon, 31 May 2004, Anna Voellmecke wrote:Paul -- you know I'm a convert, right? I think I have identified myself as
> > At 07:34 PM 5/29/2004, you wrote:
> > > (Also, I am curious as to the reactions toward whatever steps
> > >toward unity there may be of the non-Russian, non-Slavic Orthodox
> > >Christians, especially but not entirely converts, in ROCOR for whom
> > >"Mother Russia" has no more meaning
> > Well, we *are* in the Russian Church, so it is our spiritual home and our
> > spiritual Mother. Surely you aren't saying that the rapproachment of the
> > two parts of the Russian Church is only important to ethnic Russians!
> For some for whom ROCOR was and is a spiritual home in Orthodoxy,
>the fact that ROCOR was in its origin Russian is something of an
>accident of history.
such before. And as a non-Russian convert, I stand by my prior statement.
No other "ethnic" Church has done what ROCOR has in its outreach to
converts.Very few parishioners of ROCOR churches intend to go to Russia.
"Diaspora" in our situation means "spread all over" or "outside Russia,"
*not* "the place we go home to."
I m glad Fr.John agrees with the rest of the post. Michael N Fr. John R. Shaw wrote: ... Patriarch ... JRS: In his polemical exchange ofMessage 32 of 32 , Jun 2, 2004View SourceI'm glad Fr.John agrees with the rest of the post.
"Fr. John R. Shaw" <vrevjrs@...> wrote:
> The ROCOR was founded in 1920, in accordance with a directive ofPatriarch
> Tikhon.JRS: In his polemical exchange of articles with Fr. Joseph Pishtey, in
the aftermath of the 1970 Autocephaly of the OCA, Fr. George Grabbe
denied that 1920 was technically the correct date for the formation of
The correct year was 1921, which is why ROCOR celebrated its 50th
anniversary in the fall of 1971 -- following the Montreal Sobor of that
Fr. John R. Shaw
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