Hi Ray, ... I was going over some old mail and I noticed that I did not respond to this question from you. Eric has put a lot of wonderful features intoMessage 1 of 5 , Jun 2, 2003View SourceHi Ray,
At 05:19 PM 5/30/03 +1200, you wrote:
>Now, a follow up question. What does ^!Find do to the cursor ifI was going over some old mail and I noticed that I did not respond to this
>anything? The documentation doesn't say that it does anything other
>than start searching from the cursor position, but the whole point
>seem to be to locate the cursor somewhere. If find doesn't set the
>cursor, then what does one do next to set it where I found something?
question from you. Eric has put a lot of wonderful features into NoteTab
and it is very easy to overlook things because there are so very many of
them that it is hard to keep track. I use them every day and don't even
think about it.
Look at the status bar at the bottom of NoteTab. On the left side you will
see two number seperated by a colon. Then you will see a second box on
this line with the letters "Ins" or "Ovr" in it. And finally, you will see
a long box with text in it depending on what you are doing or where the
mouse pointer is at the time. If you place the mouse pointer over the
first box and look in the third box while you are doing it, you will see a
message that tells you that the two number are Cursor Position=Line:Col
[Double Click to go to specified line]. If you move the mouse pointer over
the open document and click on different places to move the document
cursor, you will see these two numbers change to reflect the new row/line
and column position. The same for any action you take on the keyboard to
move the cursor.
If you place the mouse pointer over the second box, the third box will
display a message that this box is the status of Insert/Overwrite Mode
[Double Click to Toggle].
If you place the mouse pointer over the third box you get copywrite and
version information about NoteTab in this box.
If you place the mouse pointer over the open document, you get the word
"Ready" which tells you that any running clip has stopped or that a clip is
not running and that NoteTab is "Ready" to run it if you want and you get
information on the number of bytes in the document, the number of lines,
Last Save Date/Time and finally the file format (DOS/Windows, Unix, Mac, etc).
If you place the mouse over an open outline document, you do not get the
file size and line info but you get the rest plus instructions for the
right click menu.
If you place the mouse over the document tab, you get the full path name of
the file displayed here.
If you place the mouse pointer over one of the toolbar or clipbar buttons,
the tool tip is displayed in this box as well as next to the button except
that it does not go away after a second or two. It only goes away or
changes if you move the mouse pointer off the button.
If you go to the open document and some text has been selected, you will
get the selection size instead of the file size, line count info.
You see, there really is a lot of information on display and it is really
easy to forget that it is there right in front of you. I use it all the time.
And I don't know just how much other stuff I have not covered here. You
just have to move the mouse pointer over the open clipbook panel, the open
quick list panel, and other places and just watch all the information that
comes up on the status line.
The status line also shows what is happening during clip execution if you
can read really, really fast ;-). If you have a ^!Delay 30 in your clip
for example and the clip stops there then ^!Delay 30 will appear on the
status line until the time finishes and the clip moves on. A rapidly
flickering status line means that a clip is running a loop and it might be
stuck or it just might be taking some time to finish what it is doing. And
Eric has even provided a clip command that will allow you to display
information there when you run your clip without covering the document with
an obstructing dialog or info box.
WHAT DOES FIND DO TO THE CURSOR?
A very large number of NoteTabs commands including ^!Find, ^!Jump,
^!Select, and others, move the cursor around the document. In the case of
Find, the search string is selected/highlighted when found and the cursor
is placed at the right end of the selection. It has to be or you could not
search for the next occurrence. The search would start from the cursor and
constantly find the same string at the same place.
I know that this is a bit long but I hope that it might benefit anyone else
who reads this to think about and better use all of the good stuff that
Eric has shoehorned into NoteTab.
At 07:57 AM 6/2/2003, Larry wrote:Message 1 of 5 , Jun 2, 2003View SourceAt 07:57 AM 6/2/2003, Larry wrote:
>I know that this is a bit long but I hope that it might benefit anyone elseThank you, Thank you, Thank you!
>who reads this to think about and better use all of the good stuff that
>Eric has shoehorned into NoteTab.
I've been using NoteTab Pro for years, and saw lots of good stuff in the
status bar, but couldn't always find what I wanted. Your post really
"To create New Answers; you must ask New Questions."
- Bob Gorman
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Hi Ray, ... I am more concerned with clips that I or others might write that do in fact cause damage. Just out of curiosity, I wrote a clip to replace JumpMessage 1 of 5 , Jun 3, 2003View SourceHi Ray,
At 06:08 PM 6/3/03 +1200, you wrote:
>Larry Thomas wrote:I am more concerned with clips that I or others might write that do in fact
>Larry, I cannot think of any reason to have a trailing blank in any
>clip, can you? So it doesn't seem to matter if your clip removes all of
>them even from more than just your latest clip.
cause damage. Just out of curiosity, I wrote a clip to replace Jump with
Nuts. When I ran it from the clipbar on a single clip, all of the clips
following that used ^!Jump commands now had ^!Nuts commands ;-)
Fortunately, I was expecting it and recovered from it.
As for clips never needing trailing spaces.... I have learned recently
never to say never because I cannot ever know everything.
Hi Larry and Others, ... Yes, there are times you might use a trailing space. All you need to do is use the ^%Space% preset variable. I **always** leave TrimMessage 1 of 5 , Jun 4, 2003View SourceHi Larry and Others,
>> Larry, I cannot think of any reason to have a trailing blank inYes, there are times you might use a trailing space. All you
>> any clip, can you? So it doesn't seem to matter if your clip
>> removes all of them even from more than just your latest clip.
need to do is use the ^%Space% preset variable. I **always**
leave Trim White Spaces checked (except if I an checking for a
bug ;). So, I know this and when I need the trailing space I do
something like this:
>I am more concerned with clips that I or others might write thatYes, that is the way it is wired. Remember, a Library is one
>do in fact cause damage. Just out of curiosity, I wrote a clip
>to replace Jump with Nuts. When I ran it from the clipbar on a
>single clip, all of the clips following that used ^!Jump commands
>now had ^!Nuts commands ;-)
file. Just remember that and treat it as a file and you won't
mess up, at least until you get bit a couple times. <g> A lot of
times you can see it though and just exit w/o saving the Library
and then go back in. (You can catch it usually in the amount of
replacements that were made. It sticks out like a sore thumb if
it is something common. You'll get something like 3039
replacements instead of 4. <g>)
So, you use the "H" option and select the text in the Clip that
you want to make the replacements in. It will only do it inside
the selection (so long as you use your other Options so that it
does not go outside the selection and your Clip code does not
have it leave the selection). In Pro a lot of times you do not
have to re-select the text, because it stays selected. However,
in Std/Light you need to re-select the text. I think I replied
to a post a couple days ago about selecting the text in the Clip
ahead of time less you do the whole Library.
I did not try it out, but it appears that you can open the
Library as a Document then click on main menu | Document |
Properties. Check the box to Trim White Spaces. Now, uncheck
Trim White Spaces under the Documents *tab* in Options and see if
you can leave it unchecked, but still have Trim White Spaces
checked for the document: Library.clb ;)
But for me, Trim White Spaces under the Documents tab in Options
has not caused me any problems for gee, over 5 years now and I'm
quite sure saved me from a lot of headaches. One thing you need
to watch though is when you are testing somebody else's Clip and
they have a trailing spaces. Whenever you do the save after Add
from Clipboard (or whatever) the trailing white space is removed
given that there is one there and you say it works fine here. <g>
After you have been bit a few times you automatically start
checking for the white space when it is a line error. ;)
One fellow was so mad one time because of all the time spent when
I let him know what the problem was and that it happened a lot.
He said that Eric should program it in to work with the space. I
just replied with the trim white spaces and that we don't want to
put bugs into the program. :) OK, off my rambling box...
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Hi LaurieK, ... Can t you please set up a mailbox on you email client that filters emails from the list and tranfers them to that mailbox? This is what I doMessage 1 of 5 , Jun 5, 2003View SourceHi LaurieK,
At 09:41 PM 6/4/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Can't you please set up a mailbox on you email client that filters emails
>Subject: Re: The magnificant Status Bar Was: Re: [Clip] Saving and Restoring
>Not to be redundant but what the heck.
>WHen I see an email come in and it does not have the brackets with the
>NoteTab abbreviations on it, but my subject column in my mail program shows
>Subject: Re: The magnificant Status Bar......
>my propensity is to just delete it. BLOCK all emails that are not
>pertaining to my family or newsgroups and when I see wild subjects come in,
>I nuke 'em as they plop in my inbox.. now I hafta keep adjusting my screen
>to see if oops maybe just this might be a Note Tab email.....
>What is the sense of this? Once 'n awhile its ok, I may have done it once,
>when switching from may be NTB to NTO.... but it still comes up showing
>ARGH... this is frustrating.....
>Can't we please just keep the naming simple like it was?
from the list and tranfers them to that mailbox? This is what I do with
I created mailboxes names: Note Tab Clips and Note Tab Basic plus others
for freinds. I set up filters for the worse of the spam repeaters which
send those to the trash and I have Eudora set to empty the trash when ever
I shut it down and I have the filters set for the others to send them to
their mailvoxes. I leave these mailboxes open and when I receive mail, I
know that anything in them is from the list. I never delete anything from
these boxes unless a spammer sneaks onto the list and starts sending spam
and then I delete the messages until Jody kicks him off the list. Which
means that most of the time I have no problems with long subject lines.
My filter for Note Tab Clips is:
Header: «Any Header»
Transfer To: Note Tab Clips
And that takes care of any problem.
By the way, I almost never get spam from the list and Jody kicks them off
really fast so that is not much of a problem for me either.