Hi Dr. Raimund, ... It would be my guess that he tray icon is also due to a low resource condition. It is not necessarily due to one program, but aMessage 1 of 5 , Dec 18 5:35 PMView SourceHi Dr. Raimund,
>I now found out what made that API-error message. I had too manyIt would be my guess that he tray icon is also due to a low
>documents open which made NoteTab break down on startup.
>I am not quite sure if the other problem with the closing to
>system-tray has the same cause. I have to figure it out during
>the next days.
resource condition. It is not necessarily due to one program,
but a combination of things.
>I did at first what you recomended me, I renamed the .ini-fileTheoretically, you can open up 2GB files and as many as you want.
>and started NoteTab. I "enlarged/adapted" it step by step: First
>opened quick list, then close/open NoteTab, second opened a clip-
>library, then close/open NoteTab and so on. I tried that three
>times and always when I opened all the documents and then made
>close/open NoteTab this error message came.
There is some point though on every computer that I have played
with that resources get so low that all kinds of errors start
popping up from just about all programs.
>Perhaps you have a hint how I can have open more documents? I canSee my last post on how to use the least resources in NoteTab.
>live with it now, but you never know.
Don't have a lot of other programs open or open and then closing
them. That is especially true with MS programs since, at least
in my experience, some of them do not release all the memory they
use. You may want to cut back the number of programs that start
when you startup Windows if you are configured to do so. I
would not go out on the web where you are opening a lot of images
then try to open a large amount files and/or big ones.
Buying more RAM will help in loading large files and/or many
files. NoteTab loads the files into memory. To successfully
open a file you need double the memory. RAM + virtual memory
(hard drive space) that can be used.
Remember to close some files before closing NoteTab if you think
you are getting too many for your computer. Only you can answer
how many is too many? You might consider using Favorites to open
directories or certain files and uncheck the feature to Reload
Open Documents in the General tab in Options. I would not go
wild in making a huge Favorites list though, because the
Favorites feature can use up some memory if it is very large.
What are the details of your computer? You might be fighting a
loosing battle if...
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... Some programs consume extra memory when starting up (I m not sure about NoteTabPro). After starting up, these programs generally release some of theirMessage 1 of 5 , Dec 18 9:59 PMView SourceDr. Raimund wrote:
>>I now found out what made that API-error message. I had too manySome programs consume extra memory when starting up (I'm not sure about
>>documents open which made NoteTab break down on startup.
>>I am not quite sure if the other problem with the closing to
>>system-tray has the same cause. I have to figure it out during
>>the next days.
NoteTabPro). After starting up, these programs generally release some of
their memory. If this is the case, limit the number of files loaded at
start-up and load the additional files afterwards.
Hi Jan, Dr. Raimund, Jim, Ray, and Others, ... Jan, that is true with NoteTab as well. That is why I was getting at using another method to open the filesMessage 1 of 5 , Dec 19 8:59 AMView SourceHi Jan, Dr. Raimund, Jim, Ray, and Others,
>>> I now found out what made that API-error message. I had tooJan, that is true with NoteTab as well. That is why I was
>>> many documents open which made NoteTab break down on startup.
>>> I am not quite sure if the other problem with the closing to
>>> system-tray has the same cause. I have to figure it out during
>>> the next days.
>Some programs consume extra memory when starting up (I'm not sure
>about NoteTabPro). After starting up, these programs generally
>release some of their memory. If this is the case, limit the
>number of files loaded at start-up and load the additional files
getting at using another method to open the files such as using
Favorites allowing NoteTab to release the memory it uses to open
itself with. That way memory will not "peg at redline" so to
speak. If once looks at the task manager in XP, WinTop, or any
program that measures CPU usage, you will see it also goes to
well over 90% and normally goes t0 99% when I look at it. It
goes back to zero with most programs, but if the program is doing
status checks all the time you might see CPU usage bounce between
say zero and 3%. Also,let it be known that NoteTab uses RAM to
open files and that RAM is not freed up until the file(s) is
closed if I remember correctly. In version 5 Eric will be using
a different method when opening files "...that will only need
slightly more memory than the document size to load it." (That
also to the new program Eric is working on.)
Eric replied to my memory and opening large files questions a few
>>> Actually, NoteTab requires double the free memory in order toJody asked for clarification about a typo:
>>> successfully open a file. So in order to open a 130 MB file, he
>>> would need 260 MB of free memory -- that is free RAM + virtual
>>> memory (from the HD) is RAM isn't sufficient.
>>"is RAM isn't sufficient." should be "if RAM", correct?Eric confirmed typo <g>:
>Yes.Jody asked about RAM versus virtual memory (hard drive space):
>>So, is RAM a lot faster than virtual memory as far as the accessEric answered Jody's questions:
>>time or are they about the same? Having more memory (RAM) is
>>better than using virtual memory, yes/no?
>Virtual memory is very slow. In fact, I'm not sure if documentsJody clarifies amount of RAM versus free RAM: One might have
>loaded into NoteTab can even make use of virtual memory. I think
>you can change it to double the amount of _free_ RAM (not to be
>confused with installed RAM).
256MB physical RAM, but only has 95MB RAM available for use
because the other is already used by other operations and/or
programs not releasing RAM after it shuts down. Hello Mr. Bill. ;)
Only the Favorites Category file gets loaded into memory when
NoteTab starts, and it only has 1 entry. I only open the file
list document when I need to open a Favorite and then I close it
when the Favorite file opens.
Jim did some tests about the Favorites category sizes and using
the Quick List. The way I understand it he proved that a small
Favorite category uses less memory than one with many items in
the list. However, that does not necessarily prove that many
categories will or will not use up memory as Ray asked and Jim
wondered also. I quoted Eric when I wrote:
"Large amounts of Favorites and long lists slow down the loading
of NoteTab and use up a fair amount of RAM."
The way I understand what he wrote is that both many Favorite
categories *and* long lists of categories can eat up some memory.
The reason for that is NoteTab loads the Favorites into memory,
not the files themselves, but all the paths to the files.
However, I will once again bug the most busy Eric who is
programming a new program and NoteTab v5.0. ;)
Cya on the flip side... ;)
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