take this for what ever you think it is worth
i have a friend who is a atf agent (and who also likes the stuff i make) he told there has never been a cast prosecuted that did not evolve sales. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Some people are like slinkies- not good for anything, But it sure is fun to push them down the stairs
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 22:00:09 +0000
Subject: [new_distillers] Re: Another Newbie Here
--- In new_distillers@ yahoogroups. com, "jamesonbeam1" <jamesonbeam1@ ...> wrote:
I'm almost afraid to click on any links at that site :). lots of information there from atf most wanted to business opportunities .cool site, thanks waldo !
> Actually Big,
> They do. Check out http://www.atf. gov/ <http://www.atf. gov/> . Yes,
> distilling without the federal and state required permits is against the
> law. Im afraid Wildforager was breaking the law by even doing cold
> distillation or fractional crystalization, since it increases alcohol by
> volume above the legal limits of fermentation from yeast as allowed in
> the beer and wine making regulations.
> However (yes the ol' ya butt comma), owning a still in the US of A is
> legal. Its what and how much you distill through it. Our friends at
> the BATF are way more interested and focused on what we term
> "Bootlegging" . If you review the most recent alcohol busts, these are
> related to the idiots that try and make large quantities of ethanol for
> drinking purposes and selling across state lines, without paying the
> government its hard earned taxes. Not to mention the much larger drug
> problems around here thanks to the South Americans and poppy growers
> over in that European country. In short, if one is making a quart or 2
> for personal consumption, im sure they will not be put on the "most
> wanted list". We are here to make distilling safe and someday be made
> legal as is beer and wine making today. This is why we tell people
> around here that this is just a hobby for personal use and DO NOT SELL
> your product.
> Im afraid, from personal experience, that this is not his biggest
> obstacle... Trying to hide your hobby from someone living with you is
> totally impossible.. . [;)]
> Vino es Veritas,
> Jim aka Waldo.
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> --- In new_distillers@ yahoogroups. com, "bigdaddyg851" <bigdaddyg851@ >
> > --- In new_distillers@ yahoogroups. com, "wildforager1" moonwise_herbs@
> > >evrything you want to know is here. http://homedistille r.org
> <http://homedistille r.org > i dont know about specific penalties,
> does the ATF HAVE A SITE ?
> > bigdaddyg
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've been making my own wine and beer for a little over 10 years and
> I'm finally thinking of taking the next step. I've been ice distilling
> my wine during the cold winters here in WI but I realize I could get a
> much nicer product with a pot still. I've started to collect some of the
> parts and pieces for my rig already. I have come up against one obstacle
> though.... my girlfriend. She lives here too is worried about the
> legalities of me using a still. If I'm just making some applejack or
> brandy once and a while what's the big deal? I imagine if I would get
> busted I'd get a fine. Does anyone know what are the specifics on the
> penalties? Maybe point me to a link for more info?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wildforager
> > >
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