In a message dated 7/18/2003 12:34:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> Quite a few people who not only aren't beatified, but are known to -not-
> have lived "lives of heroic virtue"
But isn't that the idea--to get people to consider, and perhaps redefine,
what we mean by 'heroic virtue'? Perhaps even what we mean by 'holiness'? In this
context, Tolkien may not have lived a life of heroic virtue (that is not for
me to judge) but he certainly has played a major role in defining it for the
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