I thought the song was extraordinarily well done, though it put me more in mind of the Dwarves of The Silmarillion than those of The Hobbit. (c.f., from OfMessage 1 of 31 , Apr 29View SourceI thought the song was extraordinarily well done, though it put me more in mind of the Dwarves of The Silmarillion than those of The Hobbit. (c.f., from "Of the Fifth Battle": "Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghâl and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them.") I also thought that Martin Freeman's Bilbo's reaction to the song was beautifully done, though I don't disagree with Troels' point that it didn't quite match Tolkien's description.DougThe length of the song is a possible indication that Larry is right. With ten verses, if it were a dirge, it would take all night to sing. I know the Dwarves are patient folk, but that seems a bit much. :)Best,Jason
From: Larry Swain <theswain@...>
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Subject: Re: [mythsoc] Who's buying the DVD?
Yes, David, you hit it on the head. A faster moving song, with a more martial beat, and Tolkien gives us the instrumentation for it (including drumming on things) that is absent in the movie, or so subtle as to make no impact on me.--Larry Swaintheswain@...On Mon, Apr 29, 2013, at 08:35 AM, David Bratman wrote:I'm curious: what did you have in mind, Larry? Do you hear it as a faster-moving song, for instance?-----Original Message-----From: Larry SwainSent: Apr 29, 2013 12:06 AMTo: email@example.comSubject: Re: [mythsoc] Who's buying the DVD?I confess that I will buy it, haven't yet though. While shame facedly confessing things re: the Hobbit movie, I know a lot of people liked the music, esp. the dwarves' song, Far over.....and I must say that that was one of the huge let downs of the movie for me. The song was not at all what I've always imagined and had entirely the wrong cadence. I mean it's a lovely song, but like so much in the movie that I enjoyed, it isn't what I see as Tolkien.--Larry Swaintheswain@...On Sun, Apr 28, 2013, at 02:37 PM, John Rateliff wrote:I bought it, of course, the day it went on sale and have now watched it multiple times (five in the theatre, five on dvd). I was particularly impressed by how much is going on in the background of some scenes, such as those at Bag End. There are a lot of little character-building moments with the various dwarves that I didn't take in on a first or second or third viewing, where I was focusing on the main characters in a scene.All in all, my reaction is pretty much what I expected: I enjoy the scenes I'd liked on the big screen, and didn't like those I hadn't liked. So I don't think having or not having the dvd will have a major impact on anybody's appreciation or otherwise of the film. Luckily, I liked it v. much indeed, so I'm glad to have the chance to re-watch it anytime I feel like.November comes the extended edition, and December the next installment. Seven (eight) months to go.--John R.On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:11 PM, shawnareppert wrote:> Wondering who out there is going to be buying The Hobbit DVD? I will, simply because the parts that are actually Tolkien are worth watching over and over (the dwarves singing 'Far Over the Misty Mountains Cold', oh, yes) and with a DVD I can skip over the annoying PJ additions.
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Hi John, ... I d say that is about as likely as getting the rest of the riddles in the extended edition. Which is to say, not very likely at all. DougMessage 31 of 31 , Apr 29View SourceHi John,> I'm hoping a complete version appears in the extended edition.
I'd say that is about as likely as getting the rest of the riddles in the extended edition. Which is to say, not very likely at all.Doug