yeah, I'd not seen that notification before - weasel words, imho...
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, WendellWag@... wrote:
> Thanks, Lynn. I knew about the facts you're talking about and the facts
> discussed in Mike's talk, but what was asked on the message board that I
> referred to was a secondary question that's well beyond those facts. Someone
> found a 1966 copy of Silverlock (published by Ace) with an advertisement in
> it for their edition of The Lord of the Rings. This advertisement by Ace
> claimed the following:
> > Notice: By arrangement with Professor Tolkien, these Ace volumes are the
> only American editions that are
> > paying full royalties directly to the author. They are authentic,
> complete, unrevised, and unabridged.
> This is actually true, although it's deceptive. Ace had made an agreement
> with Tolkien that they would pay the royalties for The Lord of the Rings
> directly to him.. The royalties that Ballantine was paying Tolkien went
> through Houghton-Mifflin and Allen and Unwin. They also agreed that they
> would not print any more copies of the book, but they would sell off their
> remaining stock. Ace maintained that the book was out of copyright in the U.S.
> and that they were only paying Tolkien his royalties out of the goodness
> of their hearts, so they didn't feel any necessity to pay any royalties to
> the other publishers.
> This copy of Silverlock was printed in the short interval between the
> agreement and the time that the remaining stock was sold off. The notice above
> is thus true. It's the only American edition paying its royalties
> directly to Tolkien. It's authentic (what would an unauthentic edition be? A
> different book?), complete, unrevised (whereas the Ballantine edition has the
> revisions that Tolkien specially prepared for them, which made the
> Ballantine edition actually the better edition), and unabridged. It's a slick way
> to make it look like Ace is in the right on the affair.
> Wendell Wagner
> In a message dated 10/27/2009 8:17:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> lynnmaudlin@... writes:
> I remember Mike Foster's fascinating paper on the Ace editions presented at
> Birmingham 2005 *but* I don't remember all the details; as I recall there
> was some odd work on the British publisher's part regarding American
> copyrights and trying to bring the books into the country inexpensively under the
> "x-many copies imported" clause; I think Mike felt the Ace editions forced
> the legitimate release of LOTR in paperback & did a great deal to
> popularize Tolkien in America but check with Mike rather than relying on my memory!
> -- Lynn --
> --- In _mythsoc@yahoogroupsmyth_ (mailto:email@example.com) , "David
> Bratman" <dbratman@...> wrote:
> > I don't want to post there, nor to be quoted directly, but I can tell
> > informally that you're on the right track. Ace agreed to pay royalties
> > directly to Tolkien, as opposed to routing them through the hardcover
> > publishers as Ballantine was presumably doing.
> > The fact that you're missing is that Ace did not withdraw their edition
> > the market immediately on the agreeement, but instead agreed "not to
> > it when it is exhausted." See Letters p. 367, and Reader's Guide, p. 5.
> > This ad obviously dates from the interim period before the Ace edition
> > out of print.
> > What I hadn't known is that Ace was going around making this unwarrented
> > claim of authorization, on the basis of their misleading statement about
> > royalties and making out that their peace settlement with Tolkien
> > made their edition authorized.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <WendellWag@Wen>
> > To: <_mythsoc@yahoogroupsmyth_ (mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org) >
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:28 AM
> > Subject: [mythsoc] Ace claim that they were the only ones paying
> > directly to Tolkien
> > > Could someone who is an expert on the Ace editions controversy please
> > > look
> > > at the following thread on a message board?:
> > >
> > > __http://boards.http://boardshttp://bohttp://boarhttp://boards_
> > > (_http://boards.http://boardshttp://bohttp://boarhttp://board_
> (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=536779) )
> > >
> > > Can you answer the question that's asked there? If you don't want to
> > > post
> > > your answer to the question on the message board itself, please tell us
> > > the answer to the question and I will post your answer to the message
> > > board.
> > > (You would have to join the message board to post to it, and I would
> > > understand if you don't want to do that.)
> > >
> > > Wendell Wagner
> > >