This is the 2nd exchange I had with the writer of the original
personal email message.
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:00 PM
To: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
Subject: Re: Morelife - Questions/Comments - His Regimen
I appreciate your reply, and your explanation. My only response is
that there are a lot of folks your age(s) who have the energy of 20
year olds, yet aren't wolfing down bucket-loads of chemicals and
supplements. And even if these things are helping you, can you
imagine how much someone without this "supplements for life" setup
that "Tom" enjoys, would have to spend to join your "club"? Must be
$40-50 a day...
From: Kitty Antonik Wakfer [mailto:kitty@...
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:22 AM
Subject: RE: Morelife - Questions/Comments - His Regimen
I do not agree with you that "a lot of folks your age(s) ... have the
energy of 20 year olds". It is the exception, rather than the rule
to see people our age - and even 30 years younger - who can and do
climb up more than 2 flights of stairs without breathing hard, speed
walk down the street, and high energy dance
(house/rave/techno/salsa/etc.) for 60+ minutes without stopping (and
100+ minutes total minimum). Most will wait several minutes for an
elevator rather than use the stairs. Most will drive their cars or
other motorized conveyance rather than walk a mile or even use a
bike, skates, etc. Most do not regularly exercise at least 3 times a
week, but often succumb to the "weekend warrior syndrome" or don't
even bother at all.
Regarding supplements, we know of no one who takes as many different
ones as we do, though Bill Faloon of The Life Extension Foundation
(LEF) may. Most life-extensionists supplement far less than we do
but do assure that their nutrition is more than adequate. Some,
however, do supplement without consuming a highly nutritious diet and
others even smoke - those who do either are wasting much of their
money. In regard to money, the daily cost of our supplement regimen
is approximately $80.15/day for both of us (~$40.08 each, if we used
the exact same supplements). (This I determined, for this response,
on our standard inventory spreadsheet adding the multi-quantity
purchasing, membership, and special yearly discount prices available
for all sources, where available.) This amount is definitely not
insignificant, but the cost of our twice a week dancing (if we
actually paid it), plus eating out during a week (at least one meal,
which we do), daily fast-foods purchased by most everyone (not us),
and weekly movies (if we attended, rather than rent as we do on
occasion) easily results in $25/day. I didn't even count cigarettes
or alcohol which are consumed daily by the many if not the majority
of US/Canadian adults, nor costly sporting events attended by large
numbers, nor CDs and expensive clothing purchased regularly by many
if not most. The point is - the degree of life-extension practiced
is a matter of personal priorities based on personal values.
While Tom Matthews was the moderator of the LEF Forums for 4+ years
until January of this year - which he also originated in its unique
format - he answered various questions related to what supplements to
take on a limited budget or at various ages. A search using the
Forums limited tool with the strings "regimen" AND "budget"
OR "regimen" AND "cost"
yields 28 posts in 8 forums (all prior to 1/10/02, after which the Forums became simply a reader exchange).
[The above URL for the search on LEF Forums is not working properly (the tool has never been true boolean or even very good) and the first "regimen" is missing. Those interested will need to re-enter and then click on search to see the results described. **Kitty]
Two threads that particularly show Tom's position on supplements and cost are:
When Tom ceased his consultant services with LEF, we were ready for
the possibility that they would renege on the agreement to supply
supplements for life. We would then have reduced the number of
supplements to correspond with our financial capability in accordance
with the priority level of life-extension in our lives. This did not
occur and we thus continue with the high level of supplementation
listed on our website. However, spurred by your comments, Tom took
the time to mark our spreadsheet for those items that we would delete
or reduce *if* we were paying for all the supplementation. The
number of substances drops by approximately 40% with another 10%
decreased in quantity, resulting in a cost per day (with all
discounts taken as above) of approximately $51 for both of us. Since
we would also most likely then search and find cheaper sources, this
final price of our daily supplements would probably be under $40 for
both of us.
**Kitty Antonik Wakfer
Associate of Tom Matthews
MoreLife for us all - http://morelife.org
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PS Completion of this response was delayed till after a 2 1/2 day
visit to our cottage so that it could be given a substantive answer.
PPS This exchange also will be posted to MoreLife Yahoo.