... and ... nature ... some ... you ... ignore/destroy ... a ... nature ... concept/path ... will ... and ... Higher ... the ... the ... creatures of ... veryMessage 1 of 4 , Mar 28, 2006View Source--- In email@example.com, "Jeroen"
> Dear all,
> I think this enlightenment and spirituality-business is dangerous
> destructive. It leads us away from and destroys what is of vitalnature
> importance to ourselves, that is, nature.
> What I mean is that anything we experience, is an experience of
> (or the cosmos). In short, all there is, is nature. Nature is notsome
> external thing. As you are never separate from nature, nature andyou
> are one: it is impossible to say where a human 'ends' andignore/destroy
> nature/cosmos 'begins'. To ignore/destroy nature is to
> humans, to straightjacket nature is to straightjacket yourself, anda
> vice versa. Nature is one.
> Nature is a (comm)unity and everything that occurs in nature (f.e.
> human being) is a form of that (comm)unity.nature
> So it's not Shiva, Shakti, (para)Brahma(n), God, Allah, Buddha-
> or whatever other spiritual, mystical, or transcendentalconcept/path
> that was, is or will be making your day: it all is, has been andwill
> be nature. Hence there is no high and mighty plain of Detachment,and
> Happiness and Bliss where the Enlightened dwell: every one of us is
> here, in/with nature, as nature. And I assure you, we all suffer
> tremendously from the wars that are being waged on nature.
> So instead of searching for ((y)our) Happiness and ((y)our)
> Enlightenment, we/you should better start minding and fighting for
> what we are and what we were from the very beginning, viz. nature
> her (comm)unity.Higher
> Notice that, I, that is, nature, am being destroyed while you are
> searching for Enlightenment. In other words, the search for a
> State of Being (Enlightenment, Liberation, Extinction) is one ofthe
> terrors of the contemporary world. We do not need Enlightenment, wethe
> need nature, and we need it now!
> Other terrors that haunt our world are the terrorism of the Higher
> Being (cfr. Abrahamic God), the terrorism of the Higher
> Community/Leader(s) (cfr. states, kingdoms), and the terrorism of
> Higher Reason (cfr. Western Enlightened Reason).creatures of
> The terrorism of the Higher Being (God) turns humans into
> this Being on a mission to spread His Message and Love. This is avery
> tough terrorism as it is purely rooted in the belief in this Being,Reason)
> whose existence can not be proven or disproven.
> The terrorism of the Higher Reason (cfr. Western Enlightened
> turns humans into civilised, developed people who (are made to)to)
> believe in the High/Developed value of democratic states, science,
> industry,.. with all the political, economic, industrial,
> (neo)colonial, social, cultural, ecological consequences thereof.
> The terrorism of the Higher Community/Leader(s) (states, kingdoms)
> turns people into subjects, civilians or followers who (are made
> believe that this Higher Community/Leader(s) is more important thanhuman
> their own natural (comm)unity.
> The terrorism of the Higher State of Being (Enlightenment) turns
> beings into seekers of spirituality/enlightenment who (are made to)tear
> believe that (people with) this Higher State of Being is(are) more
> important/valuable than (people with) other states of being.
> All these searches for Higher Goals terrorise/straightjacket human
> beings. Being ignorant that nature is one, these straightjackets
> nature into pieces (creatures, civilised/developed people, ..) andthe
> destroy the (comm)unity of nature.
> Let's face it: we are not really creatures, civilised/developed
> people, labour-units, subjects, civilians, followers or
> spiritual/enlightenment seekers. Let's stop terrorising and
> straightjacketing ourselves: we are nature!!
> The goal of nature is not to be holy/divine, civilised, obedient or
> enlightened, but to live and enjoy her/our (comm)unity/ies.
> Therefore, we must (learn to) support, conserve and live in/as/with
> our natural (comm)unity/ies with love and wisdom, and help stopping
> the denial, straightjacketing and destruction of nature/ourself in
> name of some Higher Goal.electromagnetic,
> The only energy/power humans need is not nuclear or
> but energy/power that is naturally available. The fusion humansneed
> is not a nuclear fusion, but a fusion of natural/human energies.Yes.
> I wish us the best of luck!
Buddhism is firmly rooted in humanity/nature. Albert Einstein said
that if there is a religion of the future it would be a cosmic
religion - it would be Buddhism. Meditation (essential to Buddhism)
isn't a search for some lofty Enlightenment - it's getting in touch
with reality, letting go of all illusion, it's being awake & aware
that everything is one.
May all sentient beings be released from suffering.
... dangerous and destructive. It leads us away from and destroys what is of vital importance to ourselves, that is, nature. ... Large snip ... Yo Sri Jeroen,Message 2 of 4 , Mar 28, 2006View Source"Jeroen" <sphurna@...> wrote:
>dangerous and destructive. It leads us away from and
> Dear all,
> I think this enlightenment and spirituality-business is
destroys what is of vital importance to ourselves,
that is, nature.
> I wish us the best of luck!Yo Sri Jeroen,
I think that everything "leads us away from and destroys
what is of vital importance to ourselves, that is, nature"
except "this enlightenment and spirituality-business".
Peace and blessings,
... Great response, Bob.Message 3 of 4 , Mar 28, 2006View Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, medit8ionsociety
>Great response, Bob.
> "Jeroen" <sphurna@> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I think this enlightenment and spirituality-business is
> dangerous and destructive. It leads us away from and
> destroys what is of vital importance to ourselves,
> that is, nature.
> Large snip
> > I wish us the best of luck!
> > Greetings,
> > Jeroen
> Yo Sri Jeroen,
> I think that everything "leads us away from and destroys
> what is of vital importance to ourselves, that is, nature"
> except "this enlightenment and spirituality-business".
> Peace and blessings,