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> --- In email@example.com, "jazzpua"
> <gryan@g...> wrote:
> > hey group!
> > just found the list off a link someone posted in the essential-
> > skills yahoo group. I'm looking forward to being a member of this
> > group. I hope to learn some new techniques and share some new
> > ideas.
> > i thought i'd introduce myself. I'm a senior in college very
> > to graduate and then live in the real world.
> > I don't have any formal training in meditation... i kind of do it
> > on my own when i have time or when i'm inspired. I have taken an
> > nlp practitioners training with Richard Bandler and Paul McKenna
> > and Michael Breen, which was in london.
> > I'm interested in achieving enlightenment and more.
> *****Hello Jerry.
> What do you envision this enlightment is?
> Beyond enlightment, what is the "more" you are referring to?
i recently had the idea that any one definition of enlightenment
would only be coming at it from one angle, one point of view. As in
the metaphor of everyone understanding a part of an elephant, one
person getting to know the trunk, one the legs...i don't remember how
the rest of it goes.
i've had some ideas about enlightenment...one of them was reverse
hypnosis: totally open senses to what's going on externally
i can't think of the others right now
> > I think it's all part of the mastery process. I think you have to
> > balance the internal meditative experience with the outward
> > external real world participation and activeness. i've been
> > a lot lately. I wish i could read faster and read more. lately
> > been getting into david deida's philosophies, but haven't gotten
> > that far yet. i think it's important to stay broad and extensive
> > versus narrow and intensive. That's all.
> *****Do you know the old story of the new zen student who visits
> aged zen master in his cottage the first night he begins his
> residence at the monastery? The student sits on the floor (cross-
> legged, of course! Haaaa!) across from the zen master who offers
> student some tea. The student accepts and the zen master places a
> small tea cup and saucer on the floor in front of the student. He
> begins to pour the tea. The tea quickly fills the cup, overflows,
> and spills onto the saucer. "Wait! Stop!" the student yells,
> concluding that the old zen master either can't see very well, or
> that he doesn't have full control over his physical
> movements. "There's no more room in the cup!" The zen master
> pouring the tea, looks up at the student and says, "Yes. And, with
> all your ideas, notions, and thoughts, there is no more room in
> mind to understand anything else."
> ~ andy
i do now.
and i wound't be that guy that just sits down in front of the old
man. i'd say: What can you teach me!