Subject: Datre answers Jerry (part 1 Datre206)
Datre answers Jerry (part 1, Datre206)
JOHN: Today we
have some questions from Jerry and the first question is; "If I properly
understand the Datre material presented from the beginning, our "first level"
spiritual view, or experience, would be most likely with the Akashic
DATRE: Now, there again, the Akashic level - there is no
such thing. What the Akashic records that everyone thinks is a holy bible
or whatever, is nothing more or less than a record of that, which you
call, evolution upon your planet.
These so called, Akashic records is the
constant recording of physical evolution that has and is taking place on your
planet. It is much like having a camera that is constantly recording
everything that is taking place all over your planet. It's a vibrational
Your countries have all changed over time, so it
doesn't matter whether it was the Roman Empire or the Reign of the
Egyptians. Or whether it's what's going on in your countries as you have
What is going on with your wars? What is going on with
some countries that have great surges in their evolution? So these are
nothing more than the recording of these events.
records can be read by anyone. If your physical vibration can match the
vibrational patterning of these Akashic vibrations you can read anything you
want. In other words, the Akashic records, if you were to read them,
you would get very confused unless you focused in on something particular,
because it's all there in one big mish mash. Past, present and
But if you have in that which you call your brain, and you focus
on a certain event that you are interested in finding out more information
about, that can be obtained.
You just set your vibrational
patterning to that which you want to view. So the Akashic records don't
tell you any more than what has taken place on your planet. It's not going
any place, it's just there.
The Akashic vibrations, which you call
records, are not all sitting in one place, like a great big library. Your
atmosphere, as you call it, contains vibrations. These vibrations are
interpreted by individuals in any manner they so chose. This is why there
are, what you call, discrepancies.
So it's nothing to be concerned
about. Unless it's something you want to see if you can read it, and if
you can read it that's fine and if you can't do it that doesn't matter anyway
because it has nothing to do with you today in your present moment.
right, what I'm saying is that any event that happens on your planet, where are
those vibrations going to go? They're within your bubble, it's all
there. So it doesn't have to be in a big book. It doesn't have to be
in a library. It doesn't have to be contained in any specific
location. It's just a vibration that you can attune yourself
Then you'll say, I want to look up something that happened at the
time of the Roman Empire. Well, what if that vibrational information is
down at the South pole? Well, how do I get to do that? Well, it's
real simple, there is no space and there is no time.
So, man has worked
with physicality so long that everything has to be solid and
compartmentalized. That is the fallacy of the whole thing, because nothing
is solid. Nothing is solid. Everything is in a state of fluidity -
if you want to use that term.
Then again, I say fluidity and
you think of the sky and you think of the water, so I can't get past that one
But it just IS. It's an ISNESS. That's why your today
experience is so important for you to recognize. Because, this is the one
that you have. You don't have yesterday and you don't have tomorrow.
All right continue.
JOHN: And continuing the next question is; "The
Akashic level is most directly "connected" in time/space concept as just outside
our current lifetime of here and now present. Where the lower level
vibrations of that would be the least pleasant and desirable (for most at least)
while the higher levels would be more "heavenly" as we see it. Such being
akin to our earthly "Bubble" as you have put it."
DATRE: Now, you
talk about the lower vibrations and the higher vibrations. There is no
such thing. Now, that's going to come as a shock to many people, because
there's got to be a higher and there's got to be a lower. No!
Everything within your bubble is an experience.
Then you'll say, Well,
where does spirituality come in? Spirituality is a creation of humanity
residing within your bubble. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing
As you have gone through your periods of - humanity changing - your
changes have take you through different levels of understanding.
probably one of the most important statements for you to realize.
constant changing that we have referred to as evolution, because it was the only
word you had to describe what you were doing. You're doing nothing but
changing your concepts of ideas on your planet that you work with. Then
when the ideas are to the point that you want drastic changes, then that is what
Then we call them evolution simply because you have had
everything on a strict time line. What we are trying to do is take you
away from the time line, so that you can see further. In a "stretched
moment" such as you are in now, your timelines are very blurred. You are
moving out of an old timeline and have not as yet established a new
What makes it work? Why does it work?
It's your experiences. It's your understanding of your
In other words, if you didn't understand your experiences,
you would still be back in, what you call, the Roman times. You would
continue to just experience the same thing over and over and over and over and
But, because of your understanding of a certain play that
you're acting out, and saying, Well, it's about time we changed this, we have
come to the end of our season.
In other words, it's time for the play to
close. It's time to take on another written script. That's what you
do. That is what we have called evolution. So you can see how you move
from one place to another.
Now, you've already started in this New
Millennium and everyone seems very scattered, because you haven't solidified
what you want to experience. The current play is still in flux.
other words, a play that is starting out is changed many times. Well, that
doesn't work just right, we're going to have to change that. The audience
is not going to be able to grasp and understand that, so we're going to have to
change that. Then you change that.
Then something else comes up
and, No this person is coming in from the wrong side of the stage, they've got
to come in from that side because that changes the whole concept of what we're
trying to present.
That is the way your play, on the large scale of
planetary existence, works. That's why you have different countries.
Because they can act out a play in a smaller scope, than in a world wide
Maybe that will help you understand what this is all about.
It's the plays that are taking place.
In other words, it is like
you call where they go and try out all the plays in a certain area of a
country. Where they're trying out all these different plays and then they
have... I think you have in this country, what you call, the Broadway in New
What they do on Broadway is that they go up and down the
streets to the different theaters. They have different plays in different
theaters. But those actors and actresses that are in those plays interact
with each other and they're very good friends.
They get together
and have lunch together and talk about their plays. The rehearsals and all
these different things. Then sometimes one actor will go from one place to
another because they need that type of influence in that play.
now take that picture and put it on your planet. Then each one of those
plays that people are playing in, take one play, that's one country. Take
another play, that's another country. Then you can see how the people from
these different countries interact with each other in different plays.
you see, maybe in that context, you will understand more about what is taking
place on your planet.
Then you have countries that agree on
subjects. Then you have countries that disagree on subjects. This is
all, what we look at, from our standpoint, as your evolutionary process.
This is what changes things. This is what has always changed
Because countries of different viewpoints get together, no
different than people that are in plays. The playwrights, the directors,
the producers, they're not at odds with each other. They get together and
talk about things. So countries do the same thing.
Then it is how
the different countries act out their plays. And through the action and
interaction you have, that which you call, evolution.
JOHN: Next question is; " My most enjoyable spiritual
experiences have been those associated with the what I call unconditional
DATRE: Now remember, love is an emotion of the physical
construct. Now, what is unconditional love?
In other words, if you
have unconditional love that means that you don't pay any attention to anything
that particular individual does, because you say, That's unconditional
In other words, unconditional love does not criticize.
That is the only thing that we can think of. Unconditional love doesn't
Now, that goes in the exact opposite of a saying you have on
your planet. The ones that truly love you are the ones that tell you when
you're wrong. They give you a different insight as to how you are reacting
to a situation. You have another term for it called, tough love.
is very easy to sympathize with a person in their poverty. It is far more
difficult to appreciate without envy, someone's affluence.
Tough love, if
you want to look at it, is much more difficult to act out than unconditional
love. From our point of view, unconditional love is passivity.
Nothing ever happens in passivity.
In other words, if you have a standing
dish of water, and the water just stands there and you watch it nothing
happens. Then the next day you look at it and nothing happens. And
the next day you look at it and nothing happens. Nothing has
changed. That's passivity.
That is not taking charge and moving
things. Now, the next day the person walks by and says, I'm so sick and
tired of seeing that water sit there doing nothing, and they drop a marble in
it. Then the water moves and they say, Well, that gave me some
The only change that is ever needed is to change your self and
how you view your world around you. Trying to change another person does
not help you in your evolution. It just holds you in your present
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