... if you are travelling in June-August, you should be fine. Typical night will be well above freezing. In any summer month, there can be nights in theMessage 1 of 31 , May 11View SourceOn Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Dan <shortys7777@...> wrote:
I've been reading here for the past few weeks and had a few questions I could not find answers too.
1. What are the temps like at night around9/10,000 feet? My bag is 25 degree and I will be bringing thermals with me too for sleeping.
If your bag is EN-rated at 25 and you don't sleep particularly cold, and if you are travelling in June-August, you should be fine. Typical night will be well above freezing. In any summer month, there can be nights in the mid-20's, and they become more common in September. There's a chart of 10 years of data on nighttime temperatures in this folder:Note; if your bag is only manufacturer-rated at 25 (not EN rated) it's impossible to know. EN ratings are probably about 10 degrees more conservative than manufacturer claims not supported by following the EN-rating protocol. EN ratings are explained at the following link
2. I got some dehydrated food for some dinners on the trail and I was wondering if I could possibly take the food out, pack it in a smaller plastic bag and just put it right in my cooking pot with the lid on for the 10-12 minutes it says to close the bag. How long can the food stay fresh once the seal is broken? They will be eaten within a week on the trail then again after re supply.
You should be fine. Most people repackage without problem. Lots of people cook in a pot rather than in the provided bag. There's more cleanup, of course.
3. Where do you put your use toilet paper and or wipes if you use them?Some packaging for dried fruits (cranberries, prunes) uses resealable opaque, sturdy plastic bags. I repurpose these for used alcohol wipes. There's usually a clear window and I cover the window with a piece of tape. Not necessary, of course, but reduces the yuck factorLink if you can't see picture
Are bears attracted to the sent of baby wipes?Maybe. I'd probably put it in the beaercan overnight. But if I was having trouble fitting everything in, they are one of the first things I'd leave out. Bear might be curious about the smell, but it's unlikely he will bother them much. Worst case scenario probably that the wipes would get somewhat disturbed, but not destroyed or eaten.
What about ointments and such that are in your first aid kit? do these need to go in your bear canister? I know toothpaste, deodorant, soap, etc. go in there.
Again, if you have room, put them in. If not, it's unlikely to be a problem leaving them out.Personal opinions only, of course.
JD, I do something similar when it gets to cold for my bag. But, instead of draping the jacket over the bag I zip it up and slide it over the foot of the bag,Message 31 of 31 , May 15View SourceJD,
I do something similar when it gets to cold for my bag. But, instead of draping the jacket over the bag I zip it up and slide it over the foot of the bag, like an oversized sock. It reaches up around the knee area. By doing this I don't have issues with the jacket sliding off the top of the bag during the night. To me it seems that more heat is lost in the bottom part of the bag then the top.
Warm feet, happy sleep....
On 5/15/2013 11:48 AM, dittliphoto wrote:
Yes, depending on how cold one sleeps, a 0° bag is overkill in the Sierra almost anytime!!
I've had many years of first hand experience trying to make a "light" bag work in shoulder (and winter) seasons in the Sierra. I prefer wearing long undies of some sort to keep the bag clean(er) and to avoid what I feel is a "clammy" feeling of skin against nylon.
From my experience, wearing thickly insulated clothing (ie. down jacket) inside a sleeping bag makes other parts of your body (ie. legs and feet) colder. I attribute this to the heat from the core (torso) being trapped within the jacket and not warming the air space in the sleeping bag.
I have found that actually draping the down jacket outside the bag, or spreading it on top of my entire body between the bag, to be much more effective. Again, this is from several experiences over the years, your results may vary.
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> My apologies for the last email I just sent! It was intended to go to a friend of mine as we were debating this very issue and the efficacy of down with lots of clothes on (she was of the opinion more clothes between you and the down actually decreased the usefulness of the down) Anyway, I'm so sorry that it got sent to all of you and not my friend!
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> Subject: [John Muir Trail] Re: Couple questions for June hike
> I agree with Byron on this issue as well. A 0 degree bag is overkill for a summer hike of the JMT. Use a layering system with your clothes to increase your bags rating.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Byron Nevins byron.nevins@ wrote:
> > My $0.02. I used to do that -- bring a "hot" (read: heavy) bag and sleep
> > near naked inside. Then I came to my senses and slashed the weight of the
> > bag (20 oz quilt) and wear clothes underneath. If cold enough -- I wear
> > ALL of my clothes underneath. They aren't doing me any good sitting around
> > outside of my bag. If you carry it - use it!