Have you looked at Vernard Eller's online book, The Beloved Disciple: His
Name, His Story, His Thought, at http://www.hccentral.com/eller8/?
comments extensively on this subject, especially in the second section of
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From: "Fred Guyette" <fguyette@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: [John_Lit] Sacraments in John? ("Christ plays in 10,000 places")?
>I am writing an essay on sacraments in John that I hope to publish later
> this year. I rehearse the "anti-sacraments" argument of Bultmann and the
> "pro-sacraments" argument of Cullmann. Other highlights: I try to indicate
> what Luther and
> Zwingli might have disagreed about in John 6. I think perhaps Sir Edwyn
> Hoskyns has the best approach to John 6, when he says that it is a
> sacramental chapter and that it assumes the eucharistic practices of the
> early church as "understood."
> I have come to a particular question, however, that I can't quite get a
> handle on, and I would appreciate comments from list members:
> Suppose you accept what I will call "the sacramental principle" of the
> Prologue: "The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us" -- does this lead
> you to a Gerard Manley Hopkins type of affirmation that "Christ plays in
> 10,000 places"? What is there in John's gospel that keeps us from saying
> anything like this in our worship? Why do we say that there are just 2 or
> just 7 sacraments
> and not an "infinite number" of sacraments?
> I know there are creeds and catechisms that teach 2 or 7, but what do we
> find in John itself that "puts the brakes on"?
> Thank You,
> Fred Guyette
> Erskine College and Seminary
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