You don't need to buy the book to find out about abiotic oil. Peswiki
has several files at the website. A good primer is:
http://www.vialls. com/wecontrolame rica/peakoil. html
The Russians operate on the principal that oil is not a fossil fuel.
That is why they are the world's leading oil producer.
--- In joecellfreeenergyde vice@yahoogroups .com, Jim Clark
<huuman60@.. .> wrote:
> Hi Adrian:
> Read Gold's book, "Deep Hot Biosphere". Oil is not a fossil fuel
> is replenished. We just do not know the rate.
http://www.amazon. com/s/ref= nb_ss_b_0_ 9?url=search- alias%3Dstripboo ks&field- keywords= deep+hot+ biosphere& sprefix=deep+ hot+
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> Gold was an geotechnical expert and predicted many things that were
> tossed aside by mainstream science and later proven to be true during
> his lifetime On this topic, his logic is flawless in my opinion. We
> have been duped again based on more than a hundred year old wives tale.
> He explains exactly how and why in his book.. Before he died, they
> drilled a five mile hole in the Baltic Sea bed to test his theory. The
> result was that got clear mineral oil just as he predicted. The black
> color attributed to be dead plant life is actually deep earth
> bacteria that eat the oil as it comes up.
> So Peak oil is a sham. Obviously, by saying that oil will run out,
> picture is greatly distorted even though there is not doubt that we can
> over harvest it.
> Kind Regards, Jim
> Adrian wrote:
> > It is common for those of us who have an interest in the humanitarian
> > aspect of the cell to consider that the suppression is about greed of
> > the energy barons. And I have no doubt that this is true. But right
> > alongside this is another anlaysis that may well factor in.
> > Many people here know about peak oil, and once they have the maths
> > clear the next thing is to calculate the conseqeunces of passing the
> > peak - and these are horrendous becuase they imply the tortured
> > deaths of, not millions, but billions of people. One crude way of
> > analysing this is that the planet has about 6.5Bn people, and without
> > oil it can sustain only about 1Bn. As you can see the majority of us
> > die without oil. The principle cause of death of these people will be
> > at the hands of each othe people as the fight for whatever food there
> > is proceeds. This has been the way of humanity in every case where
> > there has been a resource shortage. It means wars between nations
> > initially but it also eventually means civil war. Civil war is a very
> > special kind of war becuase there are no sides. It should interest
> > you to know that in the attacks by Israel on Lebanon that took place
> > in 70s the majority of deaths of the Lebanese were at the hands of
> > other Lebanese. Civil wars of the kind we expect under this scenario
> > are essentially multiway gangfights, with no order. It should
> > interest you to know that the majority of deaths of the early
> > settlers of America were by inflcted not by he Indians, or disease
> > but on each other, and the manner of the death was shooting...in the
> > back. This is how humanity behaves in such circumstances. I hope I
> > have managed to convey a fragment of what it will be like.
> > Now add the population explosion. People who have read about this
> > know that the population in 1800 - just before oil - was about 1Bn
> > and now it is 6.5Bn. But these figures miss the point that the growth
> > curve is now very steep. Perhaps the best way to get a feeling for
> > steepness of the curve is to know that we went from 6Bn to 6.5 Bn in
> > the last eight years. The next half billion will take a good deal
> > less time. You get the picture.
> > Please observe I mention nothing here of global warming. Clearly this
> > is also potentially disasterous but you don't need that factor at all
> > to make the argument I want to make.
> > So, with the simple facts of peak oil and population before us we can
> > factor in free energy.
> > Clearly, free energy can alter the equations above. Oil would be no
> > longer critical to our survival, global warming would cease and we
> > would buy some more time. I don't say for a second that we have
> > solved all the problems, of course not, I am saying that FE would buy
> > time.
> > OK but now factor in the *suppression* of FE. Why would anyone in
> > their right mind suppress free energy in these circumstances? Well
> > the usual answer is greed and I have no doubt at all that greed on
> > the part of energy barons is a major factor, after all they are
> > competing with each other for power and they do this with money. But
> > there is surely another factor. You see, it is utterly ridiculous to
> > see the energy rich as greedy fools, they are not, they are rational -
> > hyperational you might even say and they very much seek to inform
> > themselves of worst case scenarios. So what has their rationality and
> > the forward thinking told them?
> > Well the first thing is that if an ordinary person like me can look
> > at the figures then they can too. It is absoutely certain that
> > advisors to all these people have made the facts as I have explianed
> > here clear, and probably a good many more too. "Sir, it's simple, the
> > energy needs of America cannot be met in the medium term and we
> > recommend radical action". Yo can see it can't you. And so I believe
> > they have decided to protect themselves. Before I say anything about
> > that it is essentuial to realise that these people are not united.
> > They are competing amongst themselves so you must not expect
> > thatunity there - far from it. But they do have a common interest,
> > and so there is a degree of cooperation. Anyway, I believe one
> > analysis has been that it is impossible to control population growth
> > and it is impossible to engineer a gentle landing for the majority
> > (even if this were desirable to them) - and so the 5.5Bn of which
> > they willnot be part must indeed die. The only issue is how is this
> > to happen?
> > Well I think there is a problem in allowing it to happen in its own
> > time because it will take decades, and it is not possible to sustain
> > any kind of safe-haven for that long. And so when the time comes, the
> > process must be hastened. I am sure you can think of a lot of ways in
> > which that can be done. Plagues are effective, certain kinds of
> > nuclear war are effective and there several others. And so we have to
> > face that it will amount to something akin to a cull. We will be
> > slaughtered and in a time frame consitent with the length of time the
> > safe havens can be sustained. I suspect a year is the maximum that
> > could be done.
> > And at the end of it all we will have a new West. They will just need
> > to start shooting each other in the back and things can start all
> > over again...
> > Consider this scenario my friends. It is simple but it is a very good
> > way to explain why we have the suppression of free energy. It is
> > becuase they do not want anyone buying time for humanity and they do
> > want anyone surviving the cull.
> > If you are buying any of this you are sure to ask the quiestion "how
> > long have we got?" Of course I don't know but I would guess under ten
> > years, there should be a couple more oil-based wars first, probably
> > overlapping, but then it's surely time to pull the plug.
> > We are seeing the collapse of money markets even as I type this and
> > it is hard for civilisation to survive even that. When people get
> > close to this kind of thing they do very strange things, things that
> > the most cynical have seen coming for a long time, and for which they
> > are already prepared.
> > What I find so hard about all this is that I a member of the species
> > about which all this is true. Who could view us from outside and
> > think we were anything but savages? Actually "savages" doesn't cover
> > it - I am not sure I can find a word to describe it, mybe there has
> > not been one invented fro it yet. I do know that we we have made hell
> > on earth here already.
> > The problem in all this is to find your purpose - the reason why you
> > decided to come here, at this time.
> > Regards
> > Adrian