On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Benoit Couture<benoitctr@yahoo. com
> Salut Graham,
> As I read your idea, the question that came up is: Does the liscence of
> NGO's allow them to go directly into "for-profit business " such as you
This is a common misconception. Non-profit status does not mean that
the organization is not allowed to earn a profit, or more correctly in
this case, a surplus. It means that the organization may not have
owners or shareholders and distribute profits to them, and that any
surplus must fund further non-profit activity. The largest-volume NGO
is One Laptop Per Child, with revenue in the neighborhood of $200
million annually. (2008, and projected for 2009)
the details of non-profit/charity/ NGO law vary from one
country to another. Get professional advice before committing funds.
Anyway, the more likely business model is for microfinance NGOs to
give out loans for creating for-profit businesses.
> I could see an NGO being formed to train people to go into business, like
> some micro credit organisations but I dont think that an NGO is allowed to
> buy and sell at a profit. I know that it is not allowed in Canada.
This turns out not to be the case.http://www.law- nonprofit. org/faqnfpc7. htm
Not-for-profit & Charity Law
...in these times of reduced funding, many groups are involved in some
form of money-making activity through sales. As long as the sole and
primary purpose of the organization does not become making money, it
continue with incidental money-making activities. But when an
organization' s commercial activities become so dominant as to
overshadow the purposes for which it was established, trouble might
> At present, in Minciu Sodas, there is Graham on the supply side of
> empowerment and there is Fred on the demand side as ground volunteers.
Earth Treasury is also trying to organize demand among OLPC
deployments, where solar and other renewable power are essential to
running the computers. I am currently creating a list of all such
deployments with contact information, but could use help with this
part of the project.
I recommend Fantsuam Foundation as another partner.
> This provides us with a live picture of a need being ripe for it's market's
> We need to think through on how to go about assembling the
> team that can handle our initial prototype:
> FUNDING- Earth Treasury knows of NGO's who do micro financing. Perhaps can
> we interest them into taking on the part of funding needed until we are
> ready for financing.
Yes. I can create a long list of microfinance NGOs who fund solar
> TRAINING- The synergy between Graham and Fred need to be supported
> to co-ordinate the unfolding of the marketing plan, in the balance of demand
> and supply and in the integrity of our values, among which the value of the
> person comes first through out the operation.
> FINANCING- By the time we reach the stage for financing, Mornflake
> along with people like Mr. Soros and firms like Templeton Foundation might
> accept to lead the way into the comfort of private financing, instead
> falling prey to the rush for profit of the public financing such as stock
> If that does not work, we should then put ourselves in position to offer a
> bidding contest to the financial firms and governments that we choose to
> invite, so as to not prostitute our values.
> PRODUCTION- Graham and your contacts are the basis for this plan.
> DISTRIBUTION- This is Graham's start-up field of activity.
> WHAREHOUSING- We need to determine the best all around location to emerge
> from, in Uganda.
> PROMOTION - SELLING- Deciding on the form of publicity that will be used,
> all the way from the sell people to the media support of their efforts. In
> other words, lets be sure that the enrgy of enthusiasm gets to be fuelled by
> the creativity of each one involved and the
companionship of the team
> This is why I think that we would be wise to navigate our deployment by
> starting our promotion-selling activity amongst the groups who thrive in
> such natural companionship and care for each other.
> I say so, because to my dismay, I was told in the last year, that even
> though extreme poverty rules, the market of products such as cocaine are
> still yet emerging along with the empowerment that we are embarking on here
> with DLY.
> SERVICING- Thechnical support for each product sold.
> NETWORK AFFILIATION- From a core association like Mornflake with DLY, we
> can move in a parralel emergence of several markets of services. Earth
> Treasury is certainly set to join such an assembling process.
> This idea of Network Affiliation is to
cultivate the release of Talent
> Discovery as Fred seeks to do with his soccer team and other
> endeavours. This is an open door for inspiration and dedication to rise in
> the song of liberty.
> Were we to be blessed with success, my Prayer is that we remain strickly
> focused on the emergence that supply the needs, as oppose to getting
> distracted by wants and lusts that are irrelevant to the economy of the
> Kingdom of Heaven in our midst.
> (add more as you see fit)
> Who else can join to embody the physical emergence of DLY solar project in
> Uganda from Graham's location as a starter? Once grounded and
> perfected between Graham and Fred, the market will quickly move on to the
> other African members of Minciu Sodas who are interested to join.
> Dear Lord, I ask for your
inspiration and guidance into this possible
> Value-Network of Your emergence in our midst...amen to Your Yes in us
> ...may all blessings be with us all...
> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Graham Knight <DIYSolar@btinternet .com
> From: Graham Knight <DIYSolar@btinternet .com
> Subject: [mendenyo] Initial Funding for DIY Solar projects
> To: mendenyo@yahoogroup s.com
> Received: Monday,
July 6, 2009, 1:07 AM
> Dear All,
> Andrius has suggested using funds from the Mornflake project to initiate
> some DIY Solar projects.
> I welcome that and will do my best to supply what is requested.
> I would, personally, like to add 'to the pot' with another idea.
> As you may be aware, I'm concerned about the lack of good communication that
> often occurs after a free sample pack
> has been sent (on request) to NGOs.
> There are any number of reasons why projects of all sorts fail but proper
> communication is often the main problem.
> So I'm offering $100 of solar pv parts to the first entry where we have
> managed, between us, to produce an outline of a viable solar pv project!
> By that I mean where the NGO has devised a way of buying/making/ selling pv
> devices (battery chargers, radios, etc)
> that can be sold
locally to produce enough income to make a self-sustaining
> project. I will explain more about this when requested.
> Apart from the usual solar conversion of existing radios, lamps and mobile
> phones there are two other possibilities that can apply
> in some localities; charging car batteries and converting shop products.
> 1. Where car lead-acid batteries are taken into a town for charging an
> alternative is to solar charge them at home.
> 2. I'm told that there is an increasing range of imported lamps powered by
> dry cells on sale in many towns.
> Some are easy to solar-convert, some not.
> Send photos and I will say which ones are a possibilty.
> If the above is of interest I will send more information when the person
> chosen to run your projects replies.
> P.S. I am also interested in supporting projects
for improving stoves.
> Let me know if you are in contact with anyone who might be interested. Peter
> Ongele is already involved in one project.
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