... * * * Marta, That was one humdinger of a storm. I have also been out in some big ones too. Early on, I had more problems with water wetting the end ofMessage 1 of 35 , Jul 12, 2005View Sourcemarta_clark wrote:
> I went backpacking last week to the Standing Indian area. Wednesday* * *
> night we had a really heavy rainstorm. Really heavy--the northward
> trek of a tropical storm, I think.
That was one humdinger of a storm. I have also been out in some big
ones too. Early on, I had more problems with water wetting the end of
the hammock and wicking down the fabric, making the foot end of my
sleeping bag moist. I have never had a problem with a pool of water
under the pad.
I do a couple things different when I set up than what you do. Maybe if
you experiment with a couple of them it will improve your results.
I usually do not hang the hammock up with much distance between the tree
and the hammock, and I do not use quite as much angle as some folks.
Just about perfect for me is a foot or two of strap at each end of the
hammock, very seldom more. A longer strap is more likely to collect
water on its own in the rain, and the greater angle is more likely to
funnel a stream of water coming down the tree onto the strap.
I have a pair of hammock tubes made from silnylon, similar to Hennessey
Snake Skins. These are extremely easy to sew and make the hammock
easier to pack and hang up too. The hammock tube is gathered at the end
of the hammock and forms a pretty good seal around the strap. It may be
that a little water will wick through the strap, but none will flow down
the strap's surface onto the hammock.
In really big storms, I have been known to attach a drip cord to the
strap, closer to the tree. Sometimes it is a sock that needs to be
washed anyway, or a piece of line. In the really big storm, I am mainly
concerned about a sheet of water coming down the tree's side and flowing
out the hammock strap. I want that water to drip off the strap as close
to the tree as possible.
Congrats on sleeping through such a storm. With a tarp, you might have
stayed dry if you had found a nice deep pile of pine needles right at
the top of a small hump, but in many tenting spots, it would have been a
wash night! My experience with the hammock is that after a big
thunderstorm, when I go around to see how my tenting friends are doing,
most of them are sopping up a lot of water in their tents.
BTW, with the materials I use in Speer-like hammocks, finding a puddle
of water inside would be quite unusual. The DWR ripstop is not
waterproof and it would begin to leak out the bottom as soon as the
water started to pool. I guess that a very water resistant DWR material
might pool water when new, or if heavily treated with silicone such as
Scotch Guard. Is your hammock self made or stock from Speer Hammocks?
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I know I m a little late wading in :~) on this topic but today is my first day back from a 3 week kayak trip off Canada s west coast and the subject is veryMessage 35 of 35 , Jul 25, 2005View SourceI know I'm a little late wading in :~) on this topic but today is my
first day back from a 3 week kayak trip off Canada's west coast and
the subject is very relevant. The particular area we were in is
reputed to receive 324 inches of rainfall a year... and it felt like
they received all of that in the 21 days we were there!
At the last minute before departing, I butchered an old tarp to make
up some "end caps" and I'm very thankful I did (pic is in the album
Neale). I kept them rectangular so I could play around with shape and
configuration. The top corner of the caps tied off a few inches inside
the tarp peak and, for all the reasons discussed in this thread,
effectively prevented water running along the tarp ridgeline and
dripping over the hammock. I got no water blowing in the ends - and we
had gale-force winds on several occassions. Because they're not needed
all the time and I appreciated being able to adapt the set-up, I'm not
sure I'll actually attach them permanently to the tarp as I'd planned
but I'll certainly move to a more triangluar cut.
I tried cord and bandanas to wick the water from the HH hammock lines.
Both worked fine for me. I actually had more difficulty stopping the
flow down the tension lines for my JRB nest system. In future I'll
discard the stock suspension cords (I believe they're too long and
hang the quilt too low in rainy conditions) and use much shorter lines
to attach just upstream of the hammock-line joint. I eventually
discovered that using the snake skins to cover the lines until they
were under the tarp worked fine but I still got light moisture
travelling into the ends of the down underquilt. The other issue with
this solution was that I could no longer use the snake skins to furl
the hammock once they were wet - they'd certainly soak the hammock
during storage which would be a pain when expecting multiple days of rain.
My question to the group is this...
When we add the extras to stay dry and warm (ie. a separate tarp
requiring additional stakeouts rather than the HH integrated,
under-quilts, under-covers and end caps) - none of which goes into the
regular snake skins so each element requires just that little extra
time to put-up and take-down, are there ways to economize on the
time/effort required to set up? I was a whole lot more comfortable
than my tenting colleagues during this trip but then they were set up
and relaxing with a cup of tea a whole lot sooner than I was. It pains
me for the hammocks to be out-done on this one dimension. How can I
make hammocking even more virtuous by (radically?) shortening the set
up time? Tips? Techniques?