one may also try a 2-3 ft section of U Style, Steel Fence Post
you may want to find one with larger 'wings' that go into the earth
or make one from aluminum for about $40.00
remember: the harder the ground the harder the stake will hold.
Arye P. Rubenstein
Imagination is more important than knowledge...
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education... Albert Einstein
----- Original Message ----
From: Carey Parks <Carey@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:52:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Hammock Camping] Pictures of the freestanding support?
I tested a one tree hang in the yard, wanting to know if I could expect to
use it in the field sometime when I couldn't find two suitable trees. This
can happen easily here on the beaches where the underbrush is so thick along
the beach. It's easy to find a tree where you could hang pointing toward the
water, but along the water is full of growth, and a often that growth has
sharp bits that can draw blood.
In the yard I used a 3 foot length of rebar and pounded it in the ground.
Which is hard sand here, with coral rocks in places and a layer of "grass"
on top. It worked well. One trick is to use rope without a lot of stretch so
when you tension the rig, it really wants to stay on the shortest distance
between the tree and the stake. If it has give and is allowed to get
off'-center much at all, the force multiplies and the give gives more and
there you are on the ground. I also put most of my weight toward the tree,
so if it does get a little off-center it's only my feet that are most off
center and it's only my feet that will take the hardest fall.
On the beach (kayak camping) I could bury a deadman three or four feet in
the sand and get enough purchase for it to work, but that's a lot of effort
when it's hot so I've just wandered around until I found a couple trees I
could use. Sometimes it's across a game trail or a human trail, and I get
funny looks when folks have to walk around my camp. I didn't see the look
from the wild boar who came down to the river one night to find me hanging
across his trail. I heard him tho, and he stopped and had a good think about
it before running off the way he came.
There's a lot of force involved. If you have not had a go with the force
calculationg spreadsheets in the files section, you should have a play with
them and come to grips with just how strong things need to be to hold up a
hammock with a person in it.
It's not exactly the same thing, but it is a lever - hold your 30 pound pack
in one hand down by your side. Then raise it out to the side or front
keeping your arm straight. (Don't hurt yourself trying!! It's just ment to
illustrate leverage.) Then imagine if you had an arm six feet long!
From: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com]On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:13 AM
To: hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Pictures of the freestanding support?
I tried. They break at the crimps that are meant to restrict the motion
of the ring. I did use such stakes to hold down a carport canopy for an
entire winter, but that pull was directly upward. The hammock requires
a lot of stress with a lateral component, and just a lot more strength
Ralph Oborn wrote:
> yeah, I tried multiple stakes holding stakes. In the moist dirt of the
> fall of the year, I could not get anything that I would carry in my pack
> to work. Of course, a fence post would have worked...
> How about a helical dog tie out stake?
> Anybody tried one? (not that it would be easily packable) :]
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