What is sustainability?
What is sustainable tourism?
green-travel posting guidelines
As of August 2008, there were over 2,100 subscribed member addresses on the green-travel group. Keep in mind though, the green-travel archives are publicly available on the web, so virtually anyone may read them as well as pick-up posted messages via major search engines. Additionally, green-travel is freely available via RSS web feed, commonly used with personal RSS feed readers such as Google Reader (http://reader.google.com/)
Just because the green-travel owner (Marcus L Endicott) uses the group in a certain way does not mean that the group should only be used in that way. For example, new members may wish to post brief introductory messages. In fact, old members may also wish to post updated introductory messages about themselves and their work at least once per year.
Basically, subscribed members may do anything they want -- until the green-travel owner doesn't like it. The only thing Marcus Endicott has a low tolerance for is boring; in other words, if anyone is too boring for too long, he will begin to lean on them behind the scenes. (Of course, the group owner claims moderator's prerogative in exception to this rule of thumb about being boring himself! ;^))
The general feeling of the group owner is that green-travel is a highly underutilized resource; since, there are many if not most of the well known experts in the field of sustainable tourism subscribed to green-travel, who could potentially answer any question or solve any problem....
Although discussion is appropriate, experience has shown that traditional news release format is the most efficient way to disseminate announcements.
- Messages must be in simple, plain text format, either without line returns or narrowly formatted. Attachments of any kind are automatically removed for your protection, including HTML message formatting....
- Please add "http://"
to all web addresses or URLs in order for them to become active or "hot" links in non-MS applications, such as the green-travel archives on the web.
- Please do not quote or include entire digests or unnecessarily long messages in replies.
- Also please include descriptive subject lines, including country whenever possible.
Messages may be posted in languages other than English; however, non-European languages should be accompanied by a translation or summary in English or other European language.
Only members may post to the group by sending to:
Non-members may send messages for the group to the group owner at:
Group members with Yahoo! accounts may post from the web form at:
Multiple email addresses may be associated with a Yahoo! account by using:
What makes a good post for the green-travel group?
- Good messages are on-topic, in this case at least about travel or tourism, even if only by inference. More specifically, the topic is culturally and environmentally responsible, or green, travel and tourism.
- Original messages make good posts for the green-travel group. Tell us something. If its not worth your time and effort writing about something, even briefly, then its probably not worth ours reading about it.
- Short messages are better than long ones, think one or two screens, one half to one page.
- Good messages have good, clear subject lines, preferably including country name. (Where in the world are you?)
- Good messages include "hot" links for more details; web addresses must include "http://"
to become "live" in the green-travel archives online.
- Timely news releases make good messages for the green-travel group.
What makes a bad post for the green-travel group?
- Forwarded messages are less desirable than original ones.
- One-line retorts are generally a waste of bandwidth, something like information pollution; if you need to say something like that to someone, then its better to send it directly to them privately, and not to the whole group.
- Excessively long messages are generally not good. If you quote previous messages, please do so selectively; the worst is to regurgitate entire digests.
- Please do not post survey forms or detailed itineraries directly to the group; in these cases, post instead to a web page (for example http://googlepages.com/)
and just send a link with summary.
Is the green-travel group moderated?
There seems to be some confusion over whether or not the green-travel group is moderated. The answer is... sort of, semi-moderated. Over the years since the green-travel group was founded at igc.apc.org in 1991, the group has been variously completely unmoderated, completely moderated, completely open subscription, completely closed subscription, and various combinations. Today at yahoogroups.com, green-travel is semi-moderated, but completely open subscription, which means that old members are not moderated, but new members are moderated until they establish to the group owner's satisfaction that they have a clue... in other words, that they understand the topic, a very wide topic but never the less a topic, roughly encompassing sustainable or green tourism... and that they can post reasonably, which includes a number of factors from not making too many mistakes to adding descriptive subject lines to not quoting entire digests for one-liner retorts, etc. In fact, many old members prefer to be moderated to prevent false sends to the group, or private messages being distributed publicly. Members who wish to have their moderation status changed either way may simply contact the group owner (http://mendicott.com/)
. Currently perhaps half the group members are moderated and half are not.
List Management Via Email: green-travel group
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