On 27 Nov 2009 at 22:00, Kerry wrote:
> Comments interspersed.
> > 1. The need for an event-based database program for genealogists,
> > historians, biographers etc.
> Well, for genealogists, The Master Genealogist is event-based. And since the
> user can customise the events, I am guessing it could be tweaked to support
> historians and biographers more generally.
So people keep telling me, but I've never managed to discover it for myself,
since every time I've tried to use TMG it has crashed my computer. I know
some people manage to use it, but I am not one of the lucky ones.
> Apart from family history, I don't think the marketplace for other forms of
> history is particularly large, so a low-cost commercial offering seems
> unlikely, unless it can be done as a tweak to something else. For example,
> animal breeders use family history software increasingly to track their animal
> pedigrees because family history software is cheap by comparison to the
> specialist breeder software offering costing thousands of dollars (or so I
> have been told).
It could be done either as shareware, or a trial version. Or it could be done
as an open source project, which might be better, as more and different kinds
of users could contribute it -- no one person can imagine all the
circumstances in which it might be used.
> > There were wones called Nameview and Namedrop that scanned BBS messages for
> > things like surnames of interest, and manipulated those messages to collect
> > them. They worked with Fido Technology Networks, but no one seems to have
> > written an equivalent that works with mailing lists, newsgroups, or web
> > forums.
> > Tiny Tafel Genenrator -- which not only developed but matched Tiny Tafels.
> I think the modern "solution" is to let Google loose on message archive and
> then use Google search. Since you can ask Google to search over only a
> specific site, you can probably approximate the same effect.
> However, a specialist genealogy search tool probably can exploit the
> convention of SURNAMES being in upper case or the interpretation of Tiny
> Tafels which Google cannot. However, there are already a number of specialist
> Google searches, e.g. Google scholar, that do treat content as more than just
> a bunch of key words (that is, exploit specific structures and conventions),
> so if Google thought the interest was there and put a bit of their horsepower
> into it (they employ some very smart people), the result could be amazingly
Yes such searches are useful, and can, of course, search for old messages as
well as current ones, if these are archived somewhere.
But I would subscribe to a lot more mailing lists if I could download only
the messages that I was interested in.
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