It looks to me that there was probably quite a bit said at the
Symposium worth noting, but as yet video/audio or audio recordings of
the webcasts do not seem to have surfaced. I hope that I'm wrong, and
that somebody did indeed record something.
We do have helpful annecdotal summaries and discussions surfacing on
the discussion groups.
We do have links to PDF files of some of the materials for some of the
There are many that seem of interest, but, of those that participate
in these groups, a few are by PIA (Paul Scott, Chelsea Sexton), Felix
Kramer, and Greg Hanssen:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:46:30 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, 11:39:46 AM, Darell Darell wrote:
>> As little as I want to fan the flames on this current debate... I'm sitting
>> here watching the ZEV Tech Symposium from the online feed. Toyota is right
>> now spending LOTS of time and effort showing how BEVs can never be
>> attractive on the open market - and this followed all the info about how
>> FCVs will be the best option.
>> The reasons BEVs won't work on the market according to Toyota?
>> Cost was mentioned. Dedicated charging infrastructure was mentioned. They
>> trotted out the same stuff they mentioned before - they spend more
>> advertising the Rav4 than the Prius, etc....
>> THIS is the part that bugs me, folks. Both of these items - cost and
>> infrastructure face WAY more challenges in the FCV world, but that just
>> doesn't seem to matter, does it? :sigh:
>Holy ____ that's wrong!
>Would someone who is going to speak at the open session please
>mention that FCVs are BEVs with really expensive, impractical,
>inefficient generators on board and that PHEVs could do it
>"...A senior Chevron executive was quoted off-the-record 6 months ago as saying
>that Chevron was determined not to go down the BEV path again and never to
>let that happen again in the automotive industry, at least not with NiMH
[An alternative energy activist quotes a 2005 discussion with an Oil Industry