On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 22:37, Bill Alleman wrote:
> Rick wrote on 5/27/2004, 1:06 PM:
> > On that same token, I will not fight for those rights, it's their
> > personal battle
> "They came after the Jews and I was not a Jew, so I did not protest.
> They came after the Trade Unionists, and I was not a Trade Unionist, so
> I did not protest. They came after the Roman Catholics, and I was not a
> Roman Catholic, so I did not protest. Then they came after me, and there
> was no one left to protest."
> -Pastor Niemoeller-
> Upon exiting Nazi death camp
If the government is abridging the rights of ANY person in ANY fashion
we should be right there to eliminate it.
I've taken on personal battles myself over "small" issues because if I
don't, the "small" issues can turn into big ones.
I would not want to marry another man myself, but I fully support the
rights of others to do that if they want.
Better, as someone mentioned, would be for the government to butt out of
family issues -- including marriage -- altogether, because marriage
gives government the "right" to control your personal and family life.
I'd much rather see partners that wish to pledge themselves to each
other draw up private contractual agreements. Alas, the current court
systems may not respect such agreements, no matter how carefully they
are drawn up, simply because they don't fit "traditional" agreements and
can be challenged on that ground alone (though not necessarily in those
If we want government out of our lives in our lifetime, we must push
back everywhere it intrudes. Eventually, it will get the message and
leave us alone.
We Libertarians (bold assumption that most of us here are) will never
completely agree on the fine details of Liberty, but I think we can ALL
agree that we don't want government meddling in our affairs or dictating
to us how we arrange our personal lives in any fashion.
Thus, we can have a "Unity of Division" -- we allow ourselves diversity
of thought, which I deem a Good Thing, yet be united in recognizing
The Government has wedged itself up every orifice and in every crevasse
of our persons, and it's going to take one helluva shower to wash it
Freedom Fred <fred@...