OK, Trekkie, you've riled up the comic geek in me!
The self-sacrifice story line from X2 is based on a story arc
from the comic book which predates Star Trek II by a couple of
years. So maybe Marvel should be suing Paramount!
(From what I hear about this Jesus fellow, though, the whole
sacrifice/rebirth thing is THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD. Perhaps the
lawyers will hold off for a little bit longer.)
Besides, when it comes to ripping off Star Trek II, no movie did
it better than the steaming pile that was Star Trek Nemesis.
Despite the fact they're both based on Marvel Comic properties,
you can't really compare X2 & the Hulk. X2 was definitely an
action movie. The Hulk, on the other hand, was an IN-action
OK, that was me firing back. Here's some serious commentary:
At it's core, X2 is just another paint by number action movie.
I'm a long time X-Men fans and I got a visceral thrill seeing
these characters brought to life. I think a lot of other comic
book fans did, too. It was still a cut above most of the other
big movies last summer, but having since seen "Pirates", I'd
consider that a better movie than X2.
Although I understand feeling that the "supergroup" is overkill,
it's an integral part of the comic. If it didn't have all those
mutants running around, it wouldn't be the X-Men. Would you make
a Trek movie without a ship and crew? Would you make a Bond
movie without a gimmicked car?
Finally, even though X2 was pretty standard summer fare with a
big ensemble, Ian McKellen, Brian Cox and (surprise) Rebecca
Stamos made the most of their screentime. It's worth watching
just for them!
P.S. Personally, I like Star Trek II better that any of the
movies mentioned above and I'm sure I'll watch it for the
umpteenth time before rewatching any of those other movies.
On 2 Mar 2004 at 21:55, veetus@... wrote:
> I finally saw the "X-Men" sequel, which had a reputation as the best
> of last summer's action "franchise" pictures. I found it kinda fun
> and amusing but not the greatness I'd heard. That ending is a
> BLATANT rip-off of "Star Trek 2", right down to the music. I think
> if Paramount wanted to sue, they'd have a case. The last few moments
> are as if they took ST2 and CGed their own characters over it.
> Superpower-wise, this story has always been overkill for me. Give
> me one hero and one villian with clearly defined powers. All these
> fine folks together just make it silly. They can change the
> weather, they can disintegrate/save someone who fell out of a plane
> and then reintegrate inside, kill all humans on Earth with their
> mind...I'm certainly against prejudice but I'd be pretty worried
> myself if these guys were running around, even if some of them were
> my friends. The movie has a good message about reaping what we sow.
> Not exactly the most original message but since we never listen
> anyway, it bears repeating.
> A fun movie, could've been less of a pinball game and had more focus
> but that this was the best big budget action movie last summer shows
> how far we've fallen. Personally, I liked "The Hulk" better, and
> "Star Trek 2".
> - - - Jeff
The journey of a thousand miles sometimes ends very, very badly.
Larry Jones - lrjones@...