Hi, I m Geneva. I want to start off by saying THANK GOODNESS for this group, and for all of the courageous people here posting. I ve been browsing the postsMessage 1 of 2 , Apr 10, 2008View SourceHi, I'm Geneva. I want to start off by saying THANK GOODNESS for this
group, and for all of the courageous people here posting. I've been
browsing the posts this afternoon, and learning a lot.
I am recovering from Eckankar, indirectly. My mother-in-law is a
long-time Eckist, and since marrying her son 5 years ago, I've been
the victim of cult-mind control, harassment, slander and libel, and
emotional abuse that is beyond the "norm" from my in-laws. It got bad
enough for me to seek counseling. Luckily, I learned about cult abuse,
and have managed to get help. I've been reading everything I can find
about cults and Eckankar...
And I'm amazed. Not only is my mother-in-law an Eckist, but she is the
"Mahanta" of her entire family. My husband and I are no longer
involved with the family, although it took 3 years to wiggle free from
the harassment. We are searching for an exit-counselor for him... as
he grew up in Eckankar (unknowingly), and has all the symptoms of a
life-long cult member.
I recently read the Spiritual Counterfeits Project Journal on
Eckankar... And for the first time, what I've been through with my
in-laws is making some sense. I read on here where someone wrote about
human conflict in Eckankar... my mother-in-law seems to thrive on
conflict and creates it wherever possible. Of course, her loyal
followers (the rest of the family) feed off it, too. Everything I'm
reading about Eckankar is EXACTLY what it's like being involved with
It only took me 4 years to piece it together. People in the family had
mentioned to me that my mother-in-law "used" to be involved with
Eckankar, and they also told me about her "spiritual gift" of being
able to leave her body at will. (The have also told me repeatedly that
she is the "most Christ-like person on the Earth" and that "many
people's lives have been improved by her being on this planet.") It
wasn't until I let my curiousity lead me, and started
searching online for Eckankar... that I finally started to understand
what was happening to me.
Strangely enough, even though I resisted her and the family's attempts
to control me from the start, I still endured intense character
assassinations and indoctrination sessions that were called "family
meetings". The whole family was bent on getting me to accept their
"path to God"... and I fought it with all my might. Still, the abuse
and mind control that I've experienced there has left a scar, and I
find myself scrambling to understand this and continue to recover...
as a former cult member would.
If someone had told me this had happened to them 6 years ago, I might
not have believed it myself. As incredible as it may sound, it's
happened. My in-law family is not a family... it's cult, under the
direction of an Eckist, who apparently believes herself to be a great
"Master". She's been involved with Eckankar since the early 70s, as
far as I can tell. She apparently walked out of the "satsang", and
started her own little Eck group when she married and started having
children. She's never had any counseling, and still practices the
Eckankar teachings diligently, forcing them on her family, as well.
The profile of Paul Twitchell that I read... it's like he and my
mother-in-law are evil twins!
I didn't understand why my husband wanted to elope when we got married
at the time, but we did elope... and that really shook up the entire
family. I wasn't the one they "chose" for him, so they attacked.
They've spent just as much time trying to persuade him to divorce me,
as they have trying to demean me and recruit me, to win me over to the
dark side. It was so bad at one point that I was afraid to leave the
house, or speak to anyone outside of the family.
Will you all help me? I really need to hear your experiences, please.
I need to know what's helped you, where to get further help, and any
information about the inner workings of Eckankar will be appreciated.
I feel very badly for my mother-in-law and the rest of my in-laws who
live under her rule. I understand that she is a victim of mind
control... but at this point, I really need to worry about myself and
my husband... and get the help we need.
Thanks for reading.
Hi Geneva! Thanks for writing, and I hope you ll find helpful information here. It s not unusual to find families that operate more like cults than loving,Message 1 of 2 , Apr 21, 2008View SourceHi Geneva!Thanks for writing, and I hope you'll find helpful information here.It's not unusual to find families that operate more like cults than loving, supportive families. I don't think you're alone - I think ekult has a higher-than-usual number of wackos who believe they're "masters" of some kind, think they have special "spiritual gifts" and that their very presence on Earth uplifts all of mankind. <snicker>Paul Twitchell in Illuminated Way Letters:
" . . . each of those who are ECKists must come to the realization that they
each, belong to the chosen race of the superior being. All others are
aliens, that is those who have not yet voluntarily taken up the path of ECK.
These aliens, as we speak of them, are, in a way, heathens or pagans who have
not yet found truth. They are the agents of the Kal, and the enemy of those
who are the followers of ECK." pg. 168*********************************Well, Geneva, sorry you didn't get much feedback here. I started the above response when you first posted but it ended up in "drafts", which I rarely get back to. I hope you're learning a lot in the archives here, and everywhere else on the internet.To be honest, I'm just sort of "talked out". It's all "reruns". And mostly, anything "eck" just isn't important to me anymore. Too many more interesting & important things to do, especially since it's spring!!But, here's something someone just sent me that you might find interesting - it looks like a great book! http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing11.htmlAnother one I read in recent years is a new one: Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja LalichAnd now that I'm thinking about it, Steve Hassan's books are excellent, too! See: http://www.freedomofmind.com/ - haven't been reading at the "group" for ages but you might want to check it out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomofmind/There's a lot of great helpful books & websites out there for good advice on "recovering".I think you've done the right thing by simply cutting off contact with the in-laws. I've gone thru a variety of thoughts, viewpoints, and actions in my life and it's brought me to the point where I think just getting rid of anything & everything "toxic" in your life, even relatives, is the best way to deal with it. Life's too short to put up with bullshit, you know?My thoughts on this right now are, I think basically all of us are "works in progress" altho it certainly seems like some people get "stuck" with their "selfs" at an early age and stay there, refusing to learn, grow & change, seems to me that would be pretty boring and a wasted life. I've sort of tried to make myself be what I want to be, started doing that at a young age, actually, thanks to quite a few "real life" bad examples. So, decide who & what you want to be, and work towards it. Sometimes I'll tend to excuse my own "faults" but one helpful thing I've always found is to walk that mile in someone else's shoes, see myself (and everyone and everything) from many different viewpoints. One thing about myself that I learned in the process of leaving ekult was that like many other culties, I never set appropriate boundaries.It's different for everyone, raised in the cult or not - I think there are sort of two types, those bossy arrogant know-it-all "high initiate" types, and the nice sincere ones so that the "leaders" have someone to kick around. Oh, that nonsense about leaving the body being a "spiritual gift" is just bullshit. If she can "do" astral projection - I mean, set it up beforehand, send her "elsewhere" and have her report back, then call the person she supposedly "traveled" to for details, I don't think ANY supposedly "spiritually gifted" eckist can actually do it. But, I have no doubt that some genuinely slimy "scumbag" types can. People I know who can really "travel" were just born that way, and they'll tell you nope, it ain't "spiritual" or "holy" or anything. So, mostly I tend to use "physical" or "non-physical" instead of "spiritual" labels.It can be really difficult to identify & remove all the cult-crap and habits in your mind & life, so what I sort of tried to do was dump *all* of it and just "remake" myself from scratch, sort of, only "keeping" what I absolutely wanted to, after a lot of objective thinking.Well, I've got lots to do, but one funny thing I want to share - went to a new local slots casino over the weekend and had to laugh, of course it was sort of noisy but running beneath/along with all the other racket was a very strong but definite "hu" - really!!! It sounded just like a "hu" from a big seminar, or on one of the tapes the cult sells. Now, someone commented at the "YouTube" video site that he detected something called "binaural beats" or something on one of the cult's videos, evidently this is something that would tend to make people "controllable" or something - have you heard about music & even scents used in stores to make people more susceptible to buying things? Well, had to laugh - since the "hu" is so loud at the casino, I wouldn't be surprised if this particular sound is one that's been proven to make people fork over their $$$$$!!!!!!Anyway, I was underwhelmed - can't figure people who really get into gambling, plus I have better things to spend my $ on, and I'd probably still be very frugal & practical if I was "rich". What I was going to do was take a baggie full of pennies since I heard they had penny-slots, but it doesn't work that way, you have to use paper money and tickets.Okay, gotta run!!Best wishes and good luck to you both!!! I hope that every day of your life away from the cultic in-laws will just get better and better - truly, it *will*!!! Getting the crap out of your life will leave lots of room for the "good" stuff!Hugs,Sharon
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