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> Okay, a bit more info required I think...
> 1) "DC" were not Morrissey's backing band, but Vini played on (and
> wrote most of) Viva Hate. John Metcalfe also appeared. Stephen
> produced and played bass and some guitars, Andrew Paresi was the
> drummer. I guess if you mean that DC IS Vini, then you're right!
> no Bruce...
You're absolutely right on this. However Street produced and
performed on "The Guitar and Other Machines" - did that make him a
temporary member of DC?
> Vini also played on/co-wrote the additional tracks on the two
> released off Viva Hate, but not on the subesequent non-album
> such as Last of the Famous or Interesting Drug.
> Vini did not receive any writing credits, utterly bizarrely. He has
> stated that even the guillotine noise at the end of the record was
> his idea and no doubt is justifiably miffed at not being given the
> credit he deserves.
This doesn't surprise me at all given Morrissey's personality.
> 2) By the second album, neither Vini nor Stephen Street were
> involved. Mark Nevin (ex-Fairground Attraction) contributed most of
> the music, Langer and Winstanley produced. Bedders from Madness
> played bass and there were various other musicians, none of them DC
> connected as far as I know.
> I don't know the story of Morrissey and Stephen Street parting ways.
The story I heard was: "money".
> 3) Morrissey's solo albums are much derided. Okay, some have been
> fairly lame in places (Kill Uncle, Southpaw and Maladjusted in
> particular) but Your Arsenal, Vauxhall & I and the last one have
> plenty of high-quality stuff on them, as do various of the non-
> singles and b-sides. But obviously, this is only a matter of
> which you need not share! If you like the Smiths (as your post
> suggests) you should check out the solo stuff again - you may be
> pleasantly surprised...
I bought all of Morrissey's records up 'til "Southpaw", which was a
disgrace. I haven't bought any since. When I'm at the record store
(shop) I often pick up one of his new albums and read the song titles
and then put it down. It seems to me that he's replaced his overdone
sincerity with sarcasm. He ran out of things to say after "Viva
Hate" and ultimately devolved into self-parody. From what I've read
many of the songs on "Viva Hate" were written while the Smiths were
> 4) Viva Hate better than Strangeways? That's a toughie, but much
> closer to call than some people would have you believe. The last
> Smiths album has been slated in places, partly because of the
> circumstances of its release. However, it's Morrissey and Marr's
> favourite and anything which contains gems like I Won't Share You
> Last Night I Dreamt... can't be bad - only one weak track IMHO
> At One's Elbow).
Most critics say that "The Queen is Dead" is the best Smiths'
record. I find the US release, "Louder Than Bombs" is most often
loaded into my CD player.
> 5) Fear of being upstaged? With an ego like Mozzer's!!! Since he
> never wrote any music, I shouldn't think this likely anyway, I
> Morrissey had simply changed direction by that point.
I think Morrissey recognized that he was in the presence of greatness
while working with Reilly. Many Smiths' fans after hearing "Viva
Hate" were wondering what Marr had contributed to the Smiths but this
is because most of them (at least the ones I knew) were not familiar
with Reilly's work. If they had been, they would not have been
surprised. In retrospect, Marr's contribution to the Smiths was not
so much musical ability per se, but instead the uncanny ability to
play music that was often in conflict with Morrissey's lyrics. That
is to say, sad lyrics with happy sounding jingle-jangle guitars
causing an intriguing dichotomy. I'm not sure this was as much a
result of talent as it was just dumb luck, but it is the essence of
the magic of the Smiths. If you listen to Viva Hate, Reilly
certainly surpasses Marr's range and ability, but the dichotomy just
> So there you are. Please feel free to disagree though!!!
I don't really disagree, as you said before "Viva Hate"
vs "Strangeways" is ultimately a question of taste.