Hi Jagkrit (note to Lukas at end) ... Ph: : Well said. We have deep accumulations to prefer and try to guarantee certain kinds of dhammas. Of course if kusalaMessage 1 of 2 , Sep 10View Source
Hi Jagkrit (note to Lukas at end)
>>>Every matter happens to test our understanding of anatta. No matter they are Yahoo mess, hippies, rages, chanda and saddha to dhamma, feeling pleasant and unpleasant, metta or no metta. They've long gone. Whether we can use them to understand or waste them with more ignorance.Ph: : Well said. We have deep accumulations to prefer and try to guarantee certain kinds of dhammas. Of course if kusala arises, great. But to aim for it is an akusala trap. That's why I disagree with the moderators' policy of insisting on griendly speech in their group guidelines. It's been better recently but about two years ago there was an unfortunate period when there was alot of bad blood and bickering and the moderators and other mbers tried to enforce pleasant behaviour. Trying to enforce pleasant behaviour is akusala. In all likelhood when people are trgkecting a lot on the Dhamma pleasant behaviour will be conditioned, or it could be said that people who have the conditions to refkect on Dhamma they will also have conditions for pleasant behaviour. Vir if at times there are conditions for ynpkeasant behaviour they had best be understood as anatta. Encouraging understanding is better than insisting on pleasant behaviour and of course understanding is the only way to the truly pleasant behaviour (rather than lobha-rooted clining to it) that comes with liberation.
> I hear TA Sujin always says "in each moment, whether we sprinkle understanding or ignorance into our cittas."And I like Phil's reminder "is there seeing now?" That's the way to sprinkle more understanding into our wholesome citta. Little by little, step by step. Back away from Uddhacca and Kukkucca.
Ph: little by little, step by step, beyond akusala but having to go through aksala, like those lotus flowers in the mud. No dodging the mud for some of us, understanding growsthrough it.
I'm glad to see Lukas postig. Lukas, back to you tomorrow.
Hi again Usually I don t correct my iphone typos but An important point here to clarify: Trying to enforce pleasant behaviour is akusala. In all likelhoodMessage 2 of 2 , Sep 10View SourceHi again Usually I don't correct my iphone typos but An important point here to clarify: " Trying to enforce pleasant behaviour is akusala. In all likelhood when people are *reflecting* a lot on the Dhamma pleasant behaviour will be conditioned, or it could be said that people who have the conditions to refkect on Dhamma will also have conditions for pleasant behaviour. *But if* at times there are conditions for unpleasant behaviour they had best be understood as anatta." Ph: And I add of course there can be reflection on the harmfulness of akusala. ****But that reflection can't be conditioned by reminders from friends whoare seeking to avoid dosa rather than speaking from understanding This is all off topic. My main point to Lukas was that feeling anxiety and hatred and doubt and despair doesn't mean that we are away from the true Dhamma and feeling pleasant friendly feelings doesn't mean (necessarily) that we are connected to the true Dhamma. As for the pop Dhamma that is all about insisting on trying to get kusala, very nice for making people feel happy in the short term Phil Phil