Our lab has several different groups. John Leppik and Natalie
d'Arbeloff are two of our senior members, Investigatorius. I'm
responding to their letters here about our interaction within the lab.
Currently I'm working on our new website which you can try out at
I welcome your comments, I hope
this might be a useful interface. I'm also rewriting my proposal.
Thank you for your letters.
We have a lot of emotion invested in our lab, it's a sign that we care.
With regard to participation, I think we get the most flexibility by
choosing to work both inside and outside a system. John, I think it's
great that you're starting up your own group
(Send a blank message to
to subscribe) It's not easy,
but it will be yours. I hope that you choose to share with us here the
best of what you all come up with there. Our lab can't be perfect for
every single person, but instead I hope that it can add to what every
person works on.
John, I especially appreciate your statement that your thinking has
"even changed". In this sense, you're always our "poster child". I
remember letters long ago in which you asserted that your thinking here
will not change. I probably responded that such non-change is not
welcome here! Of course, even 5% change is tremendous, I think
sufficient to remake our world.
John, you know that you are always welcome here. But I'm happy that you
keep choosing, changing, growing. I wish this for all of us, myself
Best wishes and support!
+1 (773) 651-3785
John Leppik wrote:
> I think what follows this note says that our proprietor here no longer
> welcomes my participation. I care a great deal about thinking, but I
> realize that mine is a minority strain. I have enjoyed the many
> discussions and they have been very valuable in refining my thinking in
> many areas. They have even changed and re-colored my thinking in some.
> I respect and appreciate the effort that Andrius has put into building
> this place and his right to decide where he wants it to go. That is his
> CHOICE that he has a right to make because of his investment. Andrius'
> statement below is the most explicit statement that I have seen as to
> where he wants to take his 'supertanker'. I still really do not know
> where that is, but I suspect it is a place that I do not want to go.
> So, thank you for sharing your views. Thank you for the challenges.
> Someone, somewhere said that only those who are committed to defending
> the indefensible fear challenges, the rest grow from them. I would like
> to think that I am among the latter. I appreciate the opportunity that I
> have had to exercise and refine my thinking with many intelligent people.
> Those were my thoughts last night, but having slept on them I realized
> that over the past year-and-a-half I had made many valued friends,
> enemies and commentators who have contributed much to what I am. I
> have been moved to make over 700 posts. Exile looked rather bleak and
> unnecessary for there is a small group of thinkers here who have
> interests that do not fit into the supertanker very well, who want
> something lighter, more maneuverable, more whimsical, so I set up a new
> site where discussions can just meander. I described it as "This is a
> place for discussing CHOICES in living. If you find it interesting,
> please stay, lurk, contribute and take us where you want to go. If you
> are interesting, many will follow and enrich your journey." You can
> reach it via your browser at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Living_CHOICES and you are invited to post
> to Living_CHOICES@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Living_CHOICES@yahoogroups.com> We will know our destination
> when we get there.
> This is my way to relieve the unwanted content from Minciu_Sodas and
> hopefully stay in touch with many of you.
> And Andrius, thank you for the long visit.