I'd certainly be pleased if we could focus more, here, on real carfree urban solutions.
I truly believe that nothing less will result in a livable, sustainable (sorry) built environment. What's more, I really think we could make such places real, if we weren't spending so much time and energy trying to tweak the untweakable.
P.O Box 378
Tiburon, CA 94920
From: "she4bikes" <she4bikes@...
Subj: [carfree_cities] Re:When people want to go outside a public transportation network.....
Date: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:38 pm
I guess the question remains "How can we
work toward car independence, rather than
reduced car useage tactics such as car-sharing?
This is a tough one and I feel another yahoo
list is needed to separate "reduced car
useage", and leave this one for true car-free
struggles and discussion.
Recipient of a great car ride from the hospital
after my wrist operation
--- In email@example.com, Gus Yates <gusyates@...> wrote:
> The problem of reaching non-transit-accessible destinations is very
> much on my mind these days. Our carfree family in Berkeley,
> California now has two children and a large dog. We like to go to the
> mountains for weekend outings, and none of the towns or trailheads
> are accessible by public transportation. Carsharing is priced by the
> hour for in-town trips that we always do by foot or bike, most of the
> vehicles are small, and they prefer that you not use the vehicles for
> multi-day outings. So the remaining option is to rent from a regular
> car rental outfit. We end up doing this about once a month to the
> tune of $130-$200 (including $133/day of insurance but excluding
> gas). It adds up, especially if you need a relatively large vehicle
> to hold all the people and gear.
> One of my goals this year is to try setting up a "car club" in my
> neighborhood, which is already well-connected by an e-mail
> listserver. The objective would be to bring down the cost of
> multi-day family outings. I'll let the list know how it goes.
> Gus Yates
> Gus Yates, President
> CarFree City, USA
> P.O. Box 2841
> Berkeley, CA 94702
> Tel/Fax: 510-849-4412