... Wow. I am impressed that you still have a positive attitude, 7 plus years into building such a monumental boat. Questions ... Those are all trivialMessage 1 of 10 , Dec 2 8:14 AMView Source--- Tom Moloney wrote:
> BOLGER AS39 ...got the plans and have beenWow. I am impressed that you still have a
> putting together little bits of it ever since.
positive attitude, 7 plus years into building
such a monumental boat.
> - 12mm ply or 15mm?Those are all trivial questions <smile>!
> - will there be distortion of the sides
> - are galvanised bolts safe
> - hundreds of other predictable questions
Don't be distracted, work on your Zen,
push ahead without hesitation!
... Hi, You might want to search the archives of this group to find the thread about the AS-29 Alisa, keeping in mind that it is one particular boat, and thatMessage 1 of 10 , Dec 2 8:19 AMView Source
> - will there be distortion of the sides of the boat withHi,
> what appears to be so little support?
You might want to search the archives of this group to find the
thread about the AS-29 Alisa, keeping in mind that it is one
particular boat, and that other builders have not had the same
There were maintenance problems on Alisa that seem to have originated
with poor constuction at the chines and the centerboard cases,
complicated by a lack of effective epoxy encapsulation. For all I
know, the material was of a rot-prone type. If I remember the report
correctly, a distortion formed in the bottom during constuction so
that the bottom section mid-ships was concave (i.e. higher in the
middle) rather than perfectly flat as it should be. To me, this
suggests too much stress in the ply bottom planking.
As for the galvanized bolts, Bolger is not casual about his
recommendations for materials, and in most cases I would trust his
specs. It is possible, however, that the cost/longevity tradeoff that
he has in mind for a particular design (appropriate to the original
client) is not the one that you would prefer. If you have any doubts,
fax him; he would be happy to respond to that sort of inquiry.
Tom, Did I misunderstand? Do you already have a Loose Moose II under construction? Are you really out in the Australian desert, building an ark, and waitingMessage 1 of 10 , Dec 2 8:21 AMView SourceTom,
Did I misunderstand? Do you already have a Loose Moose II under
construction? Are you really out in the Australian desert, building
an ark, and waiting for the flood?!?
If so, please post pictures!
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Tom, You may or not know of the Bolger upgrade to the AS39 design from about one year back. As I recall, 1) They revised the ballast, to be external steelMessage 1 of 10 , Dec 2 8:41 AMView SourceTom,
You may or not know of the
Bolger 'upgrade' to the AS39
design from about one year back.
As I recall,
1) They revised the ballast,
to be external steel plate.
2) They revised the shape of
the bow, including 'rounding'
the lines, and widening the
size of the tabernacle well
with greatly improved the
anchor handling through a clever
'A-frame' winch thingy.
3) They added a contoured
bulb to the bottom at the bow
to improve 'armor' against
collisions while at the same
time improving the splashing
noise problem while anchored.
4) Other changes I don't remember.
You could learn more by asking them.
... case, ... expectations ... our ... I seem to recall something along that line too. Seems to me that somebody had bought one and were re-selling it. One ofMessage 1 of 10 , Dec 2 8:53 AMView Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:
> > At least one other LMII was built, with some deviation from thecase,
> > specs. How happy the owner was with the outcome I can't say.
> It seems to me that there was a fellow who had a LMII built by a
> professional. Once it was built, he hated it, finding the interior
> too much of a dark tunnel.
> A story like this is food for thought. I would always hesitate to
> take it literally, at least without some confirmation, because
> someone who is greatly dissatisfied is likely to overstate his
> and without investigation it's impossible to know if hisexpectations
> were reasonable in the first place. In fact, it's hard to know ifour
> own expectations are reasonable.I seem to recall something along that line too. Seems to me that
somebody had bought one and were re-selling it. One of the reasons
given was that every time he wanted to enjoy a coffee on deck - or
get a re-fill he had to climb down and back up the ladder. Things
like that. He was however quick to point out it's many advantages as
well. Just wasn't his cup of tea (or coffee) as he hadn't considered
these things before he bought it.
What you say about expectations is a very good point, as that
information gave me pause for thought about living aboard full time!
... bAS39 (or is it AS38?). First time I have ever attempted a group ... want to talk with a builder who may have solved some of ... . ... Here are a couple ofMessage 1 of 10 , Dec 2 4:47 PMView Source
--- In email@example.com, tommol@n... wrote:
bAS39 (or is it AS38?). First time I have ever attempted a group
> discussion. What is the drill? I want to talk to someone who is bi
want to talk with a builder who may have solved some of
> my problems already.
> For example,
> Is there anyone who wants to talk about this sort of thing?
> Tom Moloney
> 3 December 2003
Here are a couple of websites with information:
You might be able to email Bob Wise if he is still in St. Thomas
Good luck, Nels
... mais oui, en Francais! http://cf.geocities.com/lecabotin/Message 1 of 10 , Dec 2 5:29 PMView Source--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
> Here are a couple of websites with information:mais oui, en Francais!
> You might be able to email Bob Wise if he is still in St. Thomas
> Here is the link to the one being built in Quebec -