Oct 12View SourceI can't really respond to the survey, as I don't know why people quit. As an inactive chapter member myself, there are a multitude of reasons why I "quit", ranging from difference in philosophy with the chapter to desire to pursue other hobbies. But I'd like to reiterate something that seems obvious to me. When music standards get higher, the membership will get smaller because there are less men who can meet a higher standard. If a higher music standard is considered the goal, then we have to accept a smaller Society. On the other hand, if a larger Society is the goal, then removing barriers to membership would seem to be in order. Each of these goals works against the other one. To me, the best/only way to pursue both goals simultaneously is to have chapters be open to all comers and recruit vigorously with that in mind, but to have an elite group within the chapter of men who want to work hard and sing at a high level and are able to do so.
On 10/11/2013 10:52 AM, Montana Jack Fitzpatrick wrote:
Harmonetters,Approximately four years ago, I conducted a couple of informal and entirely unauthorized Harmonet surveys about membership and attendance at chapter meetings. Your response to these surveys was not only outstanding, but the data gathered has been used often in discussions about these matters. Additionally, some of our data was used in preparing task force reports for the International Board of Directors.However, time and events have occurred since those surveys causing us to ask if they are still valid. Membership has declined by over 3000 members in these past four years. Additionally, I can assure you that there has been a more intense focus on the subject of membership and attendance. Additionally, we are about to prepare an article for publication probing the boundaries of the membership and attendance problems. Therefore, it seems appropriate to update our survey and I need the collective assistance of every Harmonetter.I know that our participation rate has dropped remarkably. Last month we had only 70 postings. In bygone years, I can remember getting that many in just a couple of days when we had some of our most fiery and notable exchanges about hot button issues.So, I am asking you to come out of lurk mode, just for a week or so and give me some of the famous Harmonet assistance.The entire and original survey is attached below. To respond, just put some numbers beside the appropriate reasons and send your questionnaire back to me.Last time we had over 500 responses. Please try your best to equal or exceed that number this time.Thanks for your help and for responding.Blessings to everyone,Montana Jack, keeping the faith, keeping it barbershop and keeping the "Q" in BHS
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We are about to launch into the next leg of our journey to clearly identifying some more of the causes for our membership problems. If we can put our finger exactly on the problems, perhaps we can find our collective way to some effective solutions.
We need to find out the REAL reasons people leave the society. As in every part of our lives, there is the story for "public consumption" and the REAL story. A guy may leave the society telling everyone that he has family issues. But there may be just one guy he tells the REAL story. Perhaps he doesn't like standing on the risers for a long time or has seen a long remembered atmosphere of fellowship eroding.
Most folks tell someone----- and perhaps that someone is you (sounds like a great song title).
Thanks to those who have added a few more reasons to our list. Special thanks to Charlie Davenport, who has quite a bit more up close and personal reasons that people have given to him. Also, thanks to Keith Eckhardt for sharing all of the interesting responses he received about folks who were late in renewing their membership.
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS SURVEY all you have to do is hit the reply button and return your input to me. Simply list a number after ANY (or as many as you like) of the items on the list below OF WHICH YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE. No second hand information please. Only list the numbers of folks with whom you have had a personal contact.
We will let this run a week or so and then I will compile the numbers and post them back on the Harmonet for those who are interested.
So here is the definitve list of the REAL reasons folks leave the BHS (please don't add any more---you already had your chance to do that):
* Family pressure to quit
* Needed at home
* Job pressures and requirements.
* Dislike the director
* Don't like the competitive environment
* Personal health problems
* Family health problems
* Can't keep up with learning the music or choreography
* Can't keep up with the high singing level required
* Can't stand the bad singing
* No time to just stand around and sing
* No time for fellowship
* Quartet obligations
* Long commute
* Too old, too tired, all done with singing
* Have to move
* Don't like the music
* Don't like standing on the risers all night long
* Chapter Politics or chapter run by a clique
* Lack of chapter organization
* Same old, same old every week
* Rehearsal night changed
* "Lack of support from Headquarters (Nashville or District)"
* Did not feel included
* Initial warm welcome became indifference
* Didn't know what was expected of me
* NO ONE ASKED ME TO RENEW
* I missed a bunch of rehearsals and no one called me
* Bruised Ego
* Lack of opportunities to become involved (or no one asked)
The final results of this survey will be sent to those in the society that need this information and will be published to the Harmonet for everyone to see.
Please remember this is a completely unauthorized, unscientific survey which is seeking the collective wisdom of the Harmonet.
Thanks for your help,