BTW, Hollis, it's always been my take that we don't convert in this instance in part because one L=1 qt as close as dammit. You are, of course, correct about 32 fl oz but I don't think in that unit, perhaps because I cook a lot and cups and quarts are standard measure (if measuring).
Good to get this one squared away. Thanks.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Hollis Easter <easter@...> wrote:
> Both of you are right, and it's my fault: this is why the Interim Guide
> is unofficial--because it takes the eyes of many people to find clarity.
> I'll update the Guide as soon as we find an appropriate new wording. Let
> me know if my answer below makes sense.
> Ted is correct: we still convert liquid measures.
> Brian is correct: I wrote that conversion between 1 liter / 32 fl oz is
> not required in container names.
> Brian (reasonably) assumes that I was mentioning the 1 liter/ 32 fl oz
> thing as an example of a larger category--that I was abolishing all
> liquid measure conversions in one cataclysmic sweep. I didn't write it
> clearly enough, so I'll fix it.
> What I meant to say was this: So many people use 1 liter / 32 fl oz
> interchangeably that we didn't see the need to make people write down
> _that specific conversion_. We felt that just about everyone on the
> planet knows how much liquid fits in a 1 liter bottle (even if it's in
> the USA) or a 32 fl oz bladder (even if it's in Austria).
> We wanted to make reports easier to read by removing the
> seemingly-unnecessary conversion, sort of like how we don't require
> things like "the shirt is a bright white (#FFFFFF)".
> In any case: my ruling agrees with Ted's. Use standard unit conversions
> on all liquid measures; you may omit them when describing containers whose
> volume is 32 fl oz (1 liter).
> Clear as mud?
> Hollis-the-wired-on-coffee-wait-I-didn't-have-coffee-sighh guy
> On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 12:39:31AM -0600, Brian Tannehill wrote:
> > > The conversion exception pertains to gear that is offered by US
> > manufacturers in liter measure. The two instances that spring to mind are
> > bladders (e.g. the various Platys), and some of MSR's kettles, which are
> > offered in liter measure as I recall. I don't believe there was a blanket
> > agreement not to convert liquid measure.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Ted
> > Thanks Ted but according to his unofficial documentation on his page
> > it says"There are a few exceptions: when writing about hydration
> > systems, we accept that many manufacturers talk about 1 liter or 32 fl
> > oz containers, and do not require a conversion"
> > This is a 16 oz water bottle so under that it doesn't need converting.
> > Now I'm really confused. I read this as things like this dont need
> > converting.
> > Brian