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• Four score and one years ago today, Rudolf Steiner croaked. Let us now celebrate his Death Day anniversary on Anthroposophy_Tomorrow. I would like to proceed
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Four score and one years ago today, Rudolf Steiner croaked.

Let us now celebrate his Death Day anniversary on
Anthroposophy_Tomorrow.

I would like to proceed as if I were back teaching Algebra at Pete
K's Waldorf School, only with you all as my students in our One Room
Little Red Cyber-Schoolhouse.

Here's today's Algebra Word Problem:
If a "score" is equal to 20 years, then how many years ago did Rudolf
Steiner croak?

First step? Yes, let's translate this English language word problem
into Algebra

But first an important digression. You all know how Mister Mellett
loves language and how he always
brings you the etymologies or derivations of scientific and
mathematical terms.
So let's look at the derivation of the word "algebra." Where did this
word come from?

[Sorry to interrupt your own important agendas here, but I still see
some cell phones, blackberries and I-pods out. You know the drill,
I'm coming around with our very special straw-woven Waldorf
bionic body and brain parts for the rest of the day. Thank you for
your generosity, and Petey, yes, I agree with you that it would be a
real tragedy if your mother suddenly died this morning, but you still
need to give up your cell phone during class because, in the event
your mother did die, someone would call the office and then we would
notify you of her death.]
(Whops, sorry, for a moment I was back in the high school classroom!)

OK "algebra" is originally an Arabic word. It comes from "al jabir,"
also spelled "al geber" and it is a noun that means "the reunion" or
else, "the completion." In fact, since we're in Southern
California, the word could be translated into our New Age dialect
as "nirvana" or "being at One with everything." Or, if you have
strong Virgo planets in your natal chart: "perfection."

The word itself comes from the title of a book written around 820 AD
by a famous Persian mathematician, yes, he lived in Iraq, near

The book title transliterated in Arabic looks like this:

Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala

Then it was translated into medieval Latin as

"Liber algebrae et almucabala"

In English this means:

"The Book of Completion and Balancing"

Incidentally, the man who wrote this book, al-Khwarizmi, had his last
name translated in to Latin as "Algoritmi" and from that Latin word,
we get another important term in mathematics called "algorithm."

important for your will forces, children. You know that while men
like al-Khwarizmi were studiously mastering mathematics, astronomy,
astrology, chemistry and physics in their Gondishapur University, all
you romantic types were Luci-Goosi-ferically devloping your feeling
forces with all this troubador stuff, silly slacker Parsifal chasing
after the Grail like he was some archetypal hippie or flower
child.

OK, so let's do the word problem, class, shall we?
Translating this algebra word problem into numbers,
Four score and one gives us (4 x 20) + 1 = ??

So our esteemed Teacher died 81 years ago today.

Now let's continue with the lesson.

What are the prime factors of this magic number 81?

Well, is it even? No, so 2 is out. What about 3?

OK, keep dividing by 3.

Yes, that's right. Divide 81 by 3 you get 27.

Divide that by 3 again you get 9 and again, you get 3.

So we have get 3 times 3 times 3 times 3 times 3

Or 3 raised to the 4th power = 81

But 81 is also a perfect square.

So 9 times 9 = 81

Nine squared. This has to do with hierarchies, so algebra class is
over.

OK, Now it's time for comparative religion and metaphysics class.

When I was a young Catholic boy in New York City, in the 4th grade at
Our Lady Queen of Martyrs elementary school, I learned from my
Franciscan nun, Sister Mary Dolores, all about the 9 hierarchies of
angels, between us humans and the Godhead of the Trinity. You know
them well here: angels, archangels, archai, all the way up to:
Thrones, Cherubim & Seraphim. Rudolf Steiner got his names for the
angels from Dionysios the Areopagite as did we Catholic children.

Now for the comparative religion part. Around the same time that I
was learning about these angelic hierarchies, my older brother was in
college (late 1950s) and he brought home some folk singer records,
like the Kingston Trio, Pete Seeger, and Burl Ives. And one of my
favorite Burl Ives' songs was all about hierarchy in the insect and
animal kingdom.

I thought I would reproduce the lyrics here because they are so
instructive of the hierarchical process, but this particular Burl
Ives' hierarchy struck me as very descriptive of the Waldorf Critics
and the Defenders of Anthroposophy and their symbiotic relationship
with each other. After all, all of us here are fellow students in the
School of Michael that Bradford keeps us mindful of.

OK, let's have a period for chorus before we get back to the academic
subjects.

Everybody takes your places and get ready to sing the Burl Ives'
Hierarchy Song.

------------------------------------

I KNOW AN OLD LADY WHO SWALLOWED A FLY

I know an old lady who swallowed a fly.
I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
Perhaps she'll die.

I know an old lady who swallowed a spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
Perhaps she'll die.

I know an old lady who swallowed a bird.
It's absurd . . . to swallow a bird!
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her.
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
Perhaps she'll die.

[Continue building and nesting the stanzas.]

I know an old lady who swallowed a __________

Cat . . . Imagine that! She swallowed a cat.
Dog . . . What a hog! She swallowed a dog.
Goat . . . She opened her throat and in walked a goat.
Cow . . . I don't know how she swallowed that cow.

Perhaps she'll die.

[Final Verse]

I know an old lady, she swallowed a horse.

[The End]
====================================

All right! Wonderful voices.

But, excuse me, Petey, did you think I didn't
see you putting some foreign object into Dottie's backpack all the
while you were pretending to sing behind her? I want you both to
come up here, Dottie, bring your backpack to show the evidence, and
Petey, I'll give you a chance to tell Dottie just what it was you
stuck in there and why you did it. And then you take it back. Then
you apologize to Dottie. And, Petey, after last period today, I want
you to come over to the science lab where you will write 50 times on
the blackboard, 7 times with each of the 7 rainbow colors of chalk
and one final one in white, the following sentence:

"If Rudolf Steiner is a racist, then so am I."

Now to the anthroposophy lesson on Rudolf Steiner's Death Day.

For this, I wonder if Mister Lightsearcher, way in the back of the
class, would bring forth one of his favorite topics, which is how the
Defenders of Anthroposophy on this A_T group are actually feeding on
the carcass of anthroposophy, or words to that effect. Such a
wonderful, vibrant and most of all -- accurate observation and
imagination of what goes on here.

Mr. Lightsearcher gives us this wonderful picture of a rotting corpse
or carcass of anthroposophy, dead since 1925 but not buried, being
always fought over and ripped open and apart, not a pretty sight, nor
does it smell nice either. But that bad smell, as disgusting as it
is, is paradoxically, a sign that there is a great spiritualizing
process going on. Those of you here who may remember last month's
alchemy main lesson, know that every process of spiritualization is
necessarily accompanied by some kind of putrefaction process. And the
corpus (pun intended) of anthroposophy is no exception.

It's dead and it stinks. But not until the advent of the Internet
were we able to move forward with this spiritualizing-putrefying
process.

Why the Burl Ives hierarchy song? Well, to complete the
spiritualizing process, we need some natural elemental helpers,
namely, the flies drawn to the carcass and the eggs they lay which
quickly turn into maggots, which start consuming the rot and when all
is done, there will remain this beautiful and pristine skeleton of
anthroposophy, which we can then clean up, dry up, stand up in the
school and even use it for future school festivals, especially
Halloween and the Day of the Dead festivals.

Now the only questions remaining are: who are the flies? And who are
the maggots? That's easy. The flies, drawn to the carcass, are all
the Defenders of Anthroposophy, who have been buzzing around the
corpse for decades laying their eggs. And you know how it is with
these anthropops and moms. All they talk about is "planting a seed
for the future." They have no clue how to get things done, but their
maggots do! And the maggots? The Waldorf Critics of course. And they
do the most wonderful job of consuming the rotting flesh of
anthroposophy. Why, at this rate, we ought to be down to the skeleton
by the time of the Mayan Calendar runs out at the Winter Solstice of
2012.

And now maybe you can realize the importance of the Burl Ives' song.
The seeds laid by the anthro-flies, i.e. the maggots, couldn't really
start wriggling until the Internet arrived and we know that the
Internet,
according to Rudolf Steiner's lecture cycle about the Mexican
Mysteries, is the beginning of that "hideous mass of spider beings,
half-plant, half mineral, which will weave their pulsating spidery
web around the earth in the near future." Well RS said that more than
four score and one years ago, and here we are. Is he a prophet or
what?

So there are the nasty spider beings, all wriggling and jiggling and
tickling inside the belly of the Old Lady, who must be the Divine
Sophia, actually the Being Anthroposophia, and they are there to eat
the anthro-flies one by one, but in the great wisdom of the universal
process, these spider beings can't eat the maggots until the maggots
themselves turn into flies, and there we have evolution, the Great
Chain of Being, and in a great and humorous cosmic irony, by the time
all the maggots become flies themselves, the great carcass of
anthroposophy will have been picked clean and eaten dry.

Can't you just picture it at the end of the 3rd millennium when,
there will emerge a vast spidery web of Waldorf Schools worldwide,
each one named for the love of Pete, like, for example, the West
Coast Nebraska Pete Karaiskos Waldorf School, where you will find
such erstwhile maggots as Mr. Dan Dugan taking the 1st grade class,
Mr. Peter Staudenmeier as a kindergarten teacher; Lady Diana as
faculty chair, etc., and of course, the former flies of the 21st
century will be reincarnated as their eager students: Dottie,
Bradford, Frank, JoAnn, Deborah, Joel, engemi, the whole motley crew!

Ah, karma! There goes the bell. So all's well that ends well, and
that's the
lesson for today, children. For your homework, no written assignment
tonight, but do contemplate this question: Why is it that there is
such exclusive and obsessive emphasis on the racism of Rudolf
Steiner, but not a peep about his sexism? I mean, why is it that
racism has become more "sexy" a topic around here than sex itself?

Don't forget to take that question into your sleep life tonight,
especially if you're not sleeping alone. (If you are sleeping alone,
remember the warnings of the dear nuns: refrain from, ah, self-
fructification, as it were, or else you'll either go blind, grow hair

Class dismissed.

Oh, Lady Diana, if you have a minute to stay after
the, uh, shall we say, narrow,as it were, literary interests of
Anthroposophists. I just wanted to tell you about a former Waldorf
Teacher in Britain who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1983.
His most famous book was actually based upon his Waldorf teaching
experience in the years following WW II. I refer, of course, to
William Golding, author of "Lord of the Flies."

And in light of your
Waldorf kindergarten horror story about the child cutting herself
with the sharp "art knife," I'd like to leave you with a quote from a
critic named David Gribble, who said this about Golding's book:

"The real message of `The Lord of the Flies' is not that children
without adult control are barbarians; it is that the experience of
adult control guides them into barbarism."

Musing why he has to be a 9 on the enneagram,

Tom Mellett
• Shit... no wonder my kid never learned anything in school. Pete
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Shit... no wonder my kid never learned anything in school.

Pete

--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "tmasthenes13"
<TomBuoyed@...> wrote:
>
> Four score and one years ago today, Rudolf Steiner croaked.
>
> Let us now celebrate his Death Day anniversary on
> Anthroposophy_Tomorrow.
>
> I would like to proceed as if I were back teaching Algebra at Pete
> K's Waldorf School, only with you all as my students in our One Room
> Little Red Cyber-Schoolhouse.
>
> Here's today's Algebra Word Problem:
> If a "score" is equal to 20 years, then how many years ago did Rudolf
> Steiner croak?
>
> First step? Yes, let's translate this English language word problem
> into Algebra
>
> But first an important digression. You all know how Mister Mellett
> loves language and how he always
> brings you the etymologies or derivations of scientific and
> mathematical terms.
> So let's look at the derivation of the word "algebra." Where did this
> word come from?
>
> [Sorry to interrupt your own important agendas here, but I still see
> some cell phones, blackberries and I-pods out. You know the drill,
> I'm coming around with our very special straw-woven Waldorf
> bionic body and brain parts for the rest of the day. Thank you for
> your generosity, and Petey, yes, I agree with you that it would be a
> real tragedy if your mother suddenly died this morning, but you still
> need to give up your cell phone during class because, in the event
> your mother did die, someone would call the office and then we would
> notify you of her death.]
> (Whops, sorry, for a moment I was back in the high school classroom!)
>
> OK "algebra" is originally an Arabic word. It comes from "al jabir,"
> also spelled "al geber" and it is a noun that means "the reunion" or
> else, "the completion." In fact, since we're in Southern
> California, the word could be translated into our New Age dialect
> as "nirvana" or "being at One with everything." Or, if you have
> strong Virgo planets in your natal chart: "perfection."
>
> The word itself comes from the title of a book written around 820 AD
> by a famous Persian mathematician, yes, he lived in Iraq, near
> Baghdad. His full name was:
>
>
> The book title transliterated in Arabic looks like this:
>
> Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala
>
> Then it was translated into medieval Latin as
>
> "Liber algebrae et almucabala"
>
> In English this means:
>
> "The Book of Completion and Balancing"
>
> Incidentally, the man who wrote this book, al-Khwarizmi, had his last
> name translated in to Latin as "Algoritmi" and from that Latin word,
> we get another important term in mathematics called "algorithm."
>
> So what's the lesson here? Please learn your math. It's very
> important for your will forces, children. You know that while men
> like al-Khwarizmi were studiously mastering mathematics, astronomy,
> astrology, chemistry and physics in their Gondishapur University, all
> you romantic types were Luci-Goosi-ferically devloping your feeling
> forces with all this troubador stuff, silly slacker Parsifal chasing
> after the Grail like he was some archetypal hippie or flower
> child.
>
> OK, so let's do the word problem, class, shall we?
> Translating this algebra word problem into numbers,
> Four score and one gives us (4 x 20) + 1 = ??
>
> Yes, 81 is the answer.
>
> So our esteemed Teacher died 81 years ago today.
>
> Now let's continue with the lesson.
>
> What are the prime factors of this magic number 81?
>
> Well, is it even? No, so 2 is out. What about 3?
>
> OK, keep dividing by 3.
>
> Yes, that's right. Divide 81 by 3 you get 27.
>
> Divide that by 3 again you get 9 and again, you get 3.
>
> So we have get 3 times 3 times 3 times 3 times 3
>
> Or 3 raised to the 4th power = 81
>
> But 81 is also a perfect square.
>
> So 9 times 9 = 81
>
> Nine squared. This has to do with hierarchies, so algebra class is
> over.
>
> OK, Now it's time for comparative religion and metaphysics class.
>
> When I was a young Catholic boy in New York City, in the 4th grade at
> Our Lady Queen of Martyrs elementary school, I learned from my
> Franciscan nun, Sister Mary Dolores, all about the 9 hierarchies of
> angels, between us humans and the Godhead of the Trinity. You know
> them well here: angels, archangels, archai, all the way up to:
> Thrones, Cherubim & Seraphim. Rudolf Steiner got his names for the
> angels from Dionysios the Areopagite as did we Catholic children.
>
> Now for the comparative religion part. Around the same time that I
> was learning about these angelic hierarchies, my older brother was in
> college (late 1950s) and he brought home some folk singer records,
> like the Kingston Trio, Pete Seeger, and Burl Ives. And one of my
> favorite Burl Ives' songs was all about hierarchy in the insect and
> animal kingdom.
>
> I thought I would reproduce the lyrics here because they are so
> instructive of the hierarchical process, but this particular Burl
> Ives' hierarchy struck me as very descriptive of the Waldorf Critics
> and the Defenders of Anthroposophy and their symbiotic relationship
> with each other. After all, all of us here are fellow students in the
> School of Michael that Bradford keeps us mindful of.
>
> OK, let's have a period for chorus before we get back to the academic
> subjects.
>
> Everybody takes your places and get ready to sing the Burl Ives'
> Hierarchy Song.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> I KNOW AN OLD LADY WHO SWALLOWED A FLY
>
> I know an old lady who swallowed a fly.
> I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> I know an old lady who swallowed a spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> I know an old lady who swallowed a bird.
> It's absurd . . . to swallow a bird!
> She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
> That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her.
> She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
> I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> [Continue building and nesting the stanzas.]
>
> I know an old lady who swallowed a __________
>
> Cat . . . Imagine that! She swallowed a cat.
> Dog . . . What a hog! She swallowed a dog.
> Goat . . . She opened her throat and in walked a goat.
> Cow . . . I don't know how she swallowed that cow.
>
> Perhaps she'll die.
>
> [Final Verse]
>
> I know an old lady, she swallowed a horse.
>
> [The End]
> ====================================
>
> All right! Wonderful voices.
>
> But, excuse me, Petey, did you think I didn't
> see you putting some foreign object into Dottie's backpack all the
> while you were pretending to sing behind her? I want you both to
> come up here, Dottie, bring your backpack to show the evidence, and
> Petey, I'll give you a chance to tell Dottie just what it was you
> stuck in there and why you did it. And then you take it back. Then
> you apologize to Dottie. And, Petey, after last period today, I want
> you to come over to the science lab where you will write 50 times on
> the blackboard, 7 times with each of the 7 rainbow colors of chalk
> and one final one in white, the following sentence:
>
> "If Rudolf Steiner is a racist, then so am I."
>
> Now to the anthroposophy lesson on Rudolf Steiner's Death Day.
>
> For this, I wonder if Mister Lightsearcher, way in the back of the
> class, would bring forth one of his favorite topics, which is how the
> Defenders of Anthroposophy on this A_T group are actually feeding on
> the carcass of anthroposophy, or words to that effect. Such a
> wonderful, vibrant and most of all -- accurate observation and
> imagination of what goes on here.
>
> Mr. Lightsearcher gives us this wonderful picture of a rotting corpse
> or carcass of anthroposophy, dead since 1925 but not buried, being
> always fought over and ripped open and apart, not a pretty sight, nor
> does it smell nice either. But that bad smell, as disgusting as it
> is, is paradoxically, a sign that there is a great spiritualizing
> process going on. Those of you here who may remember last month's
> alchemy main lesson, know that every process of spiritualization is
> necessarily accompanied by some kind of putrefaction process. And the
> corpus (pun intended) of anthroposophy is no exception.
>
> It's dead and it stinks. But not until the advent of the Internet
> were we able to move forward with this spiritualizing-putrefying
> process.
>
> Why the Burl Ives hierarchy song? Well, to complete the
> spiritualizing process, we need some natural elemental helpers,
> namely, the flies drawn to the carcass and the eggs they lay which
> quickly turn into maggots, which start consuming the rot and when all
> is done, there will remain this beautiful and pristine skeleton of
> anthroposophy, which we can then clean up, dry up, stand up in the
> school and even use it for future school festivals, especially
> Halloween and the Day of the Dead festivals.
>
> Now the only questions remaining are: who are the flies? And who are
> the maggots? That's easy. The flies, drawn to the carcass, are all
> the Defenders of Anthroposophy, who have been buzzing around the
> corpse for decades laying their eggs. And you know how it is with
> these anthropops and moms. All they talk about is "planting a seed
> for the future." They have no clue how to get things done, but their
> maggots do! And the maggots? The Waldorf Critics of course. And they
> do the most wonderful job of consuming the rotting flesh of
> anthroposophy. Why, at this rate, we ought to be down to the skeleton
> by the time of the Mayan Calendar runs out at the Winter Solstice of
> 2012.
>
> And now maybe you can realize the importance of the Burl Ives' song.
> The seeds laid by the anthro-flies, i.e. the maggots, couldn't really
> start wriggling until the Internet arrived and we know that the
> Internet,
> according to Rudolf Steiner's lecture cycle about the Mexican
> Mysteries, is the beginning of that "hideous mass of spider beings,
> half-plant, half mineral, which will weave their pulsating spidery
> web around the earth in the near future." Well RS said that more than
> four score and one years ago, and here we are. Is he a prophet or
> what?
>
> So there are the nasty spider beings, all wriggling and jiggling and
> tickling inside the belly of the Old Lady, who must be the Divine
> Sophia, actually the Being Anthroposophia, and they are there to eat
> the anthro-flies one by one, but in the great wisdom of the universal
> process, these spider beings can't eat the maggots until the maggots
> themselves turn into flies, and there we have evolution, the Great
> Chain of Being, and in a great and humorous cosmic irony, by the time
> all the maggots become flies themselves, the great carcass of
> anthroposophy will have been picked clean and eaten dry.
>
> Can't you just picture it at the end of the 3rd millennium when,
> there will emerge a vast spidery web of Waldorf Schools worldwide,
> each one named for the love of Pete, like, for example, the West
> Coast Nebraska Pete Karaiskos Waldorf School, where you will find
> such erstwhile maggots as Mr. Dan Dugan taking the 1st grade class,
> Mr. Peter Staudenmeier as a kindergarten teacher; Lady Diana as
> faculty chair, etc., and of course, the former flies of the 21st
> century will be reincarnated as their eager students: Dottie,
> Bradford, Frank, JoAnn, Deborah, Joel, engemi, the whole motley crew!
>
> Ah, karma! There goes the bell. So all's well that ends well, and
> that's the
> lesson for today, children. For your homework, no written assignment
> tonight, but do contemplate this question: Why is it that there is
> such exclusive and obsessive emphasis on the racism of Rudolf
> Steiner, but not a peep about his sexism? I mean, why is it that
> racism has become more "sexy" a topic around here than sex itself?
>
> Don't forget to take that question into your sleep life tonight,
> especially if you're not sleeping alone. (If you are sleeping alone,
> remember the warnings of the dear nuns: refrain from, ah, self-
> fructification, as it were, or else you'll either go blind, grow hair
> on your palms or both.)
>
> Class dismissed.
>
> Oh, Lady Diana, if you have a minute to stay after
> the, uh, shall we say, narrow,as it were, literary interests of
> Anthroposophists. I just wanted to tell you about a former Waldorf
> Teacher in Britain who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1983.
> His most famous book was actually based upon his Waldorf teaching
> experience in the years following WW II. I refer, of course, to
> William Golding, author of "Lord of the Flies."
>
> And in light of your
> Waldorf kindergarten horror story about the child cutting herself
> with the sharp "art knife," I'd like to leave you with a quote from a
> critic named David Gribble, who said this about Golding's book:
>
> "The real message of `The Lord of the Flies' is not that children
> without adult control are barbarians; it is that the experience of
> adult control guides them into barbarism."
>
>
> Musing why he has to be a 9 on the enneagram,
>
> Tom Mellett
>
• ... I wonder this guiltily on occasion, too. It seems like I ought to do something about it, but the fact is people just don t care. If you say the guy was a
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Tom:

>Why is it that there is such exclusive and obsessive emphasis on the
>racism of Rudolf Steiner, but not a peep about his sexism?

I wonder this guiltily on occasion, too. It seems like I ought to do
something about it, but the fact is people just don't care. If you
say the guy was a sexist people yawn. Obviously he was a sexist, it
is just as easy and quick to prove as racist, but it just isn't
interesting. It's simple: sexism is quite socially acceptable, racism
is not.

>Oh, Lady Diana, if you have a minute to stay after class, I'd like
>say, narrow,as it were, literary interests of Anthroposophists.

Was it well documented, or are you complaining? I don't remember this
so I'm not sure.

Recently I think I induced Bradford to actually read the latest Kurt
Vonnegut book, so maybe there's hope.

>I just wanted to tell you about a former Waldorf Teacher in Britain
>who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1983. His most famous book
>was actually based upon his Waldorf teaching experience in the years
>following WW II. I refer, of course, to William Golding, author
>of "Lord of the Flies."

Are you kidding? I've never heard this, are you joking? We've often
referred to Waldorf playgrounds and classrooms as Lord of the Flies
and it TOTALLY describes ours. But it was just a cliche.

>child cutting herself with the sharp "art knife,"

Sigh. So now it's an art knife. It's official.

>I'd like to leave you with a quote from a critic named David
>Gribble, who said this about Golding's book:

>"The real message of `The Lord of the Flies' is not that children
>without adult control are barbarians; it is that the experience of
>adult control guides them into barbarism."

I know what he means, but I can hardly see it as an excuse for not
supervising properly. I truly don't think, Tom, that the lesson to
learn is to leave them to themselves even if they get injured. It is
a comment on the more typical nature of adult control - not a
suggestion that adults not give a shit.
Diana
• ... It is very interesting that you complete your thought with this reference to the enneagram. I wonder how many people have considered that the dodecahedron
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "tmasthenes13"
<TomBuoyed@...> wrote:
> Musing why he has to be a 9 on the enneagram,
>
> Tom Mellett

It is very interesting that you complete your thought with this
reference to the enneagram. I wonder how many people have considered
that the dodecahedron and the enneagram represent the two great mystic
symbols of the 20th century. The former refers to the model of man as
universal human, and latter to the concept of self-remembering. I am a
five in this life, which means I was a seven in my last, and destined
to be an eight in my next. This model was built when Michael called
forth the folk soul of the Russian people 1500 years in advance of
Philadelphia. And this occurred in May of 1915, right about the time
that Gurdjieff sat down with Ouspensky at a cafe in Moscow. He was
Pythagoras in a former life, but I suspect you might know that;
initiated directly by Zarathos, Gurdjieff would have remembrances of
being related to Zarathustra throughout his great and painstaking
work, "Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson".

His task was to offload to an intellectual, thus his need for Ouspensky.
In short, Steiner brought the astral stream of old to meet the etheric
stream of old in the form of the Russian folk soul's calling from
Michael. And when someone can put these two together, then you have
something.

Steve
• ... The only sexism I know of is Steiner s continual reference to the work of men in the endeavors of his very positive spiritual philosophy. I believe it has
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "winters_diana"
<diana.winters@...> wrote:
>
> Tom:
>
> >Why is it that there is such exclusive and obsessive emphasis on the
> >racism of Rudolf Steiner, but not a peep about his sexism?
>
> I wonder this guiltily on occasion, too. It seems like I ought to do
> something about it, but the fact is people just don't care. If you
> say the guy was a sexist people yawn. Obviously he was a sexist, it
> is just as easy and quick to prove as racist, but it just isn't
> interesting. It's simple: sexism is quite socially acceptable, racism
> is not.

The only sexism I know of is Steiner's continual reference to the work
of men in the endeavors of his very positive spiritual philosophy. I
believe it has to do with the necessary continuance of the male
principle in the transition from the intellectual to the consciousness
soul age.

Steve
• ... I love it, Tom! You know what, I heard that song on the radio in England in the early seventies - 35 years ago! - and it s been with me ever since. I heard
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Tom wrote:

>Everybody takes your places and get ready to sing the Burl Ives'
>Hierarchy Song.
>
>------------------------------------
>
>I KNOW AN OLD LADY WHO SWALLOWED A FLY
>
>I know an old lady who swallowed a fly.
>I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
>Perhaps she'll die.
>
>I know an old lady who swallowed a spider
>That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her.
>She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
>I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
>Perhaps she'll die.
>
>I know an old lady who swallowed a bird.
>It's absurd . . . to swallow a bird!
>She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
>That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her.
>She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
>I don't know why she swallowed the fly.
>Perhaps she'll die.
>
>[Continue building and nesting the stanzas.]
>
>I know an old lady who swallowed a __________
>
>Cat . . . Imagine that! She swallowed a cat.
>Dog . . . What a hog! She swallowed a dog.
>Goat . . . She opened her throat and in walked a goat.
>Cow . . . I don't know how she swallowed that cow.
>
>Perhaps she'll die.
>
>[Final Verse]
>
>I know an old lady, she swallowed a horse.
>
>[The End]

I love it, Tom! You know what, I heard that song on the radio in
England in the early seventies - 35 years ago! - and it's been with
me ever since. I heard it ONCE, and I remembered it from beginning to
end! Thanks again, Tom!

Tarjei
• ... all ... This is just wonderful...:) In the immortal words of Mr. Spock: Fascinating You be quita da word smitha dare brother Tom..:) You speaka da quit a
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Tom wrote:
> It's dead and it stinks. But not until the advent of the Internet
> were we able to move forward with this spiritualizing-putrefying
> process.
>
> Why the Burl Ives hierarchy song? Well, to complete the
> spiritualizing process, we need some natural elemental helpers,
> namely, the flies drawn to the carcass and the eggs they lay which
> quickly turn into maggots, which start consuming the rot and when
all
> is done, there will remain this beautiful and pristine skeleton of
> anthroposophy, which we can then clean up, dry up, stand up in the
> school and even use it for future school festivals, especially
> Halloween and the Day of the Dead festivals.

This is just wonderful...:)

In the immortal words of Mr. Spock:

"Fascinating"

You be quita da word smitha dare brother Tom..:)

You speaka da quit a da metaphore aye?

Probly comes up One's and zero's to those who speaka da pure
intellect.

Remember in the old "air Plane" movie?

Mrs. Clever speaking "jive"...:)

If RS was right, and sex and Love are indeed mutually exclusive, then
maybe thats why he left us a corps to feed on. My X Buddhist buddies
were always be meditating of death and rotting corpses to quell thier
sexual desires. Perhaps if we weren't all buzzing and crawling around
this corps, we'd all be out sport-fucking like crazey..:-O

fascinating!

Mike

>
> Now the only questions remaining are: who are the flies? And who
are
> the maggots? That's easy. The flies, drawn to the carcass, are all
> the Defenders of Anthroposophy, who have been buzzing around the
> corpse for decades laying their eggs. And you know how it is with
> these anthropops and moms. All they talk about is "planting a seed
> for the future." They have no clue how to get things done, but
their
> maggots do! And the maggots? The Waldorf Critics of course. And
they
> do the most wonderful job of consuming the rotting flesh of
> anthroposophy. Why, at this rate, we ought to be down to the
skeleton
> by the time of the Mayan Calendar runs out at the Winter Solstice
of
> 2012.
>
> And now maybe you can realize the importance of the Burl Ives'
song.
> The seeds laid by the anthro-flies, i.e. the maggots, couldn't
really
> start wriggling until the Internet arrived and we know that the
> Internet,
> according to Rudolf Steiner's lecture cycle about the Mexican
> Mysteries, is the beginning of that "hideous mass of spider
beings,
> half-plant, half mineral, which will weave their pulsating spidery
> web around the earth in the near future." Well RS said that more
than
> four score and one years ago, and here we are. Is he a prophet or
> what?
>
> So there are the nasty spider beings, all wriggling and jiggling
and
> tickling inside the belly of the Old Lady, who must be the Divine
> Sophia, actually the Being Anthroposophia, and they are there to
eat
> the anthro-flies one by one, but in the great wisdom of the
universal
> process, these spider beings can't eat the maggots until the
maggots
> themselves turn into flies, and there we have evolution, the Great
> Chain of Being, and in a great and humorous cosmic irony, by the
time
> all the maggots become flies themselves, the great carcass of
> anthroposophy will have been picked clean and eaten dry.
>
> Can't you just picture it at the end of the 3rd millennium when,
> there will emerge a vast spidery web of Waldorf Schools worldwide,
> each one named for the love of Pete, like, for example, the West
> Coast Nebraska Pete Karaiskos Waldorf School, where you will find
> such erstwhile maggots as Mr. Dan Dugan taking the 1st grade class,
> Mr. Peter Staudenmeier as a kindergarten teacher; Lady Diana as
> faculty chair, etc., and of course, the former flies of the 21st
> century will be reincarnated as their eager students: Dottie,
> Bradford, Frank, JoAnn, Deborah, Joel, engemi, the whole motley
crew!
>
> Ah, karma! There goes the bell. So all's well that ends well, and
> that's the
> lesson for today, children. For your homework, no written
assignment
> tonight, but do contemplate this question: Why is it that there is
> such exclusive and obsessive emphasis on the racism of Rudolf
> Steiner, but not a peep about his sexism? I mean, why is it that
> racism has become more "sexy" a topic around here than sex itself?
>
> Don't forget to take that question into your sleep life tonight,
> especially if you're not sleeping alone. (If you are sleeping
alone,
> remember the warnings of the dear nuns: refrain from, ah, self-
> fructification, as it were, or else you'll either go blind, grow
hair
> on your palms or both.)
>
> Class dismissed.
>
> Oh, Lady Diana, if you have a minute to stay after
> the, uh, shall we say, narrow,as it were, literary interests of
> Anthroposophists. I just wanted to tell you about a former Waldorf
> Teacher in Britain who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1983.
> His most famous book was actually based upon his Waldorf teaching
> experience in the years following WW II. I refer, of course, to
> William Golding, author of "Lord of the Flies."
>
> And in light of your
> Waldorf kindergarten horror story about the child cutting herself
> with the sharp "art knife," I'd like to leave you with a quote from
a
> critic named David Gribble, who said this about Golding's book:
>
> "The real message of `The Lord of the Flies' is not that children
> without adult control are barbarians; it is that the experience of
> adult control guides them into barbarism."
>
>
> Musing why he has to be a 9 on the enneagram,
>
> Tom Mellett
>
• ... considered ... mystic ... as ... am a ... destined ... called ... time ... of ... Ouspensky. ... etheric ... have ... Steve, Great stuff about the
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Steve Hale wrote:
>
> It is very interesting that you complete your thought with this
> reference to the enneagram. I wonder how many people have
considered
> that the dodecahedron and the enneagram represent the two great
mystic
> symbols of the 20th century. The former refers to the model of man
as
> universal human, and latter to the concept of self-remembering. I
am a
> five in this life, which means I was a seven in my last, and
destined
> to be an eight in my next. This model was built when Michael
called
> forth the folk soul of the Russian people 1500 years in advance of
> Philadelphia. And this occurred in May of 1915, right about the
time
> that Gurdjieff sat down with Ouspensky at a cafe in Moscow. He was
> Pythagoras in a former life, but I suspect you might know that;
> initiated directly by Zarathos, Gurdjieff would have remembrances
of
> being related to Zarathustra throughout his great and painstaking
> work, "Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson".
>
> His task was to offload to an intellectual, thus his need for
Ouspensky.
> In short, Steiner brought the astral stream of old to meet the
etheric
> stream of old in the form of the Russian folk soul's calling from
> Michael. And when someone can put these two together, then you
have
> something.
---------------------------------------

Steve,

between the dodecahedron and the enneagram, the 12 and the 9, but
actually it's the 3 x 3 as well as the Law of Seven. Also, the 12ness
represents Space and the Nine-ness seems to represent Time, perhaps
redeeming Kant's a priori categories for us all.

I like David Eyes article here:
http://www.awakenings.com/properties/threeandseven/

Myself being a 9, and having just passed through Steiner's 9 by 9 =
81st death day, I can see my obsession with all things hierarchical.

It may be difficult for some here to realize that I live out the 9
characteristic of being a peacemaker or mediator. The problem is that
the core issue of anger for the 8, the 9 and the 1 is anything but
peaceful.

I have found the enneagram to be the best way of learning how to
judge people --- insofar as it allows us to "take the beam out of our
own eyes" so that we can learn how to judge our brothers and sisters
properly.

As for Gurdjieff, I wonder if you could shed some light on
some "anthropoop" I overheard in AP circles, about G in relation to
Steiner.

I heard that one time Gurdjieff paid a visit to the Goetheanum, but
when Steiner heard about it, he became livid, and actually had to be
physically restrained from attacking G. The reason apparently was
that RS did not want all the evil, nasty, egregore-type entities in
G's "astral body entourage" to contaminate the pristine etheric
spiritual atmosphere of the Goetheanum.

(Usually there's some grain of truth in anthropoop, you
know, "There's got to be a pony around here somewhere.")

In mentioning reincarnating and the 9-gram, you give a sequence for
yourself of 7-5-8, which is the reverse order of the decimal digit
expansion of the repeating fraction 6/7 = .857142.......

However, the 7 aspect of the 9-gram does not include the Trinity of
digits: 3,6,9.

So, if I am a 9 in this life, what, pray tell, is my past life number
and what will be my next one? (I hope I'm not destined to keep
chasing my bushy Buddha tail around the 3-6-9 trianglular "wheel of
karma" (Wankel Engine of Destiny???) now, am I?)

Thank you for your hierarchical help. We could all use lessons in
self-remembering as we fondle our respective dodecahedrons..

Tom
• ... then ... buddies ... their ... around ... Yo Mike! Thanks for appreciating my metaphors. I always loved the upgrade that Marshall McLuhan gave to the
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Mike Helser wrote:

> If RS was right, and sex and Love are indeed mutually exclusive,
then
> maybe that's why he left us a corps to feed on. My X Buddhist
buddies
> were always be meditating of death and rotting corpses to quell
their
> sexual desires. Perhaps if we weren't all buzzing and crawling
around
> this corps, we'd all be out sport-fucking like crazey..:-O
>
> fascinating!
------------------------------

Yo Mike!

Thanks for appreciating my metaphors. I always loved the upgrade that
Marshall McLuhan gave to the statement made 2 centuries ago by the
great Limey poet Robert Browning:

"Man's reach must exceed his grasp, or else, what's a heaven for?"

Mercurial oracle Marshy Mac Luhan changed that to:

"Man's reach must exceed his grasp, or else what's a metaphor?"

Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!

Anyway, I must first give you a short lesson in speaking the dialect
of Classical Anthroposophese. You expressed yourself in the rather
coarse vernacular, using the term "sport-fucking."

The f-word in Classical Anthroposophese is not 4 letters, but 8, to
wit: "fructify." So, in future anthro-social gatherings, be they 3-
fold or not, or whether here online or in an actual study group, you
or "sport-fructifying" or even the most formal expression of
all: "undergoing a process, as it were, of sport-fructification."

I am fascinated, in a very Spock-like way (and I could be subtly
referring here to Benjy's sister Marjorie), with your correlation
between meditating on corpses and quelling those rather insistent
desires of a fructifactory nature. I assume you may be referring to
the Hindu vow of "brahmacharya," which is not just sexual celibacy,
but refraining from eating meat and other coarse sensual stuff. But
all that seems to be such a "guy thing" and also pretty atavistic.

But the truth is, I could actually more easily imagine my own
parents "undergoing, as it were, a process of mutual fructifcation"
than I ever could imagine Rudolf Steiner playing "hide the pickle"
with any woman, be it Marie the Dour, or even Lovely Ita, Ita babe,
(sing it: ". . . where would I be without you? Give us a wink and
make me think of you. . . . Lovely Ita, Ita-babe!).

(I was once exiled from a study group in Tennessee when an old S98
post of mine surfaced where I had speculated on the idea that the
real love of Rudy's life was not Marie, but Ita! Sigh! Ah, so much
for neo-Platonic romanticism. )

So here we have this unsettling, disquieting possibility that the
entire corpus (not corpse now) of anthroposophy, the entire
Gesamtausgabe, could have been founded on the repression of Rudolf
Steiner's fructificatorial urges. But wait, there is a new sexual
revolution going on and Rudolf Steiner may someday be canonized as
the patron saint of this very "brahmacharyan" movement called
ASEXUALITY. Check out this website for info
http://www.asexuality.org/info.htm

After all, since the asexuals have a T-shirt now, then they have to
be an official and bona fide social movement, right? Now check out
their Yahoo group, which you can read without subscribing as you can
with A_T
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/havenforthehumanamoeba/messages

As of today they have 589 members, as compared to 232 on A_T.

Oh and their slogan on the T-shirt reads:

ASEXUALITY: NOT JUST FOR AMOEBAS ANYMORE!

But now back to repression. Years ago, in the heyday of Steiner98,
the erudite techno-scholar William Irwin Thompson happened to fall
down the rabbit hole of S98. I had accused him then of calling
Steiner queer. While dusting himself off, Billy, aka, WIT, related
to us that it was not he, but rather the New Age historian Rick
Steiner was a "repressed homosexual."

Now, when the angels let me, I will pontificate on the spiritual-
scientific principles of homosexuality. But they involve the rather
complicated cross-pollination, as it were, (even cross-dressing? )
No, better say, cross-weaving, as it were, of the male and female
etheric-physical sheathes analogous to the way vision works through
the optic chiasma. Interestingly enough, the phenomenon, as far as I
can surmise --- with a straight face and a flaccid "lower larynx," as
it were --- is neither genetic nor karmic in origin. However, if you
would like to observe Goetheanistically, the phenomena of gayness and
lesbianhood, do go out and see the movie Transamerica, where Felicity
Huffman won the best Actress Oscar for portraying a pre-operative
transsexual man becoming a woman.

(For if you can catch such a person, before he, makes the,
er, "final cut," as it were, then much may be clarified in the
seer's (or is it sneer's?") inner spiritual perception of the inter-
twining astral-etheric-physical mysteries of the male and female. I
blush as I report this, but I must say, in all candor, that my
Goetheanistic observations --- seeing in thinking and thinking in
seeing --- of pre-op trannies, (known more colorfully as "chicks with
dicks") were simultaneously the most titillating and penetrating
clairsentient experiences of the entire course of my post-pubescent
life!)

Anyway, this whole Transamerica phenomenon, so mainstream out here in
the City of Angels, has inspired me to ask the most profound
questions of spiritual science I have come up with to date:

Does size matter in counterspace?

But now, let's get back home to the A_T group here. Robert Sardello
also fell down the S98 rabbit hole, and he gave us a fascinating
discussion of the sexual forces inherent on the Internet, which he
termed "cyber-dildonics." I agreed with him and pointed to the work
changes the content of the medium to express itself more honestly and
genuinely. (For example, when the movie medium first started, its
content was of live plays and opera; today, the content of movies is
much more determined by the actual medium of movies itself.)

So, given that we appear to each other here only through e-mail
messages, sans physical body contact, sans voice contact, sans
images; and, given that the essence/energy of this electronic medium
is of the fallen light and sound ethers, well, that's a lot of
filtering out.

What does come across very well is the ego and astral bodies; what is
filtered out the most is the physical body and to a large extent the
etheric. But, relatively speaking, I have noticed that over time,
when we get to know each other through repeated conversations, our
etheric bodies, which carry memory and habit, become strengthened.

The result is that we tune into each other more on an etheric level
than on a physical one. So you know what that means. It means that we
physical guys exhibit on this list our female etheric side, while the
physical ladies on this list, exhibit their more masculine etheric
characteristics.

I mean, look at the discussions that go on here. By and large, the
issues that excite the guys, are all expressed in a very measured
criss-crossing back and forth cyber-motion that always reminds me of
a bunch of old ladies sitting around together gossiping at a church
quilting bee. Notice how carefully the guys weave the patches and
guide the patchwork of etheric quilt of whatever subject is being
discussed. This is especially apparent when the critics get involved.

On the other side, when the ladies, those etheric hunks of macho men,
swagger in with their formidable astral cockleberries showing through
their etheric codpieces, all they have to do is say one word, and
they cut through all the quilting bullshit and send the giddy old
ladies into a near hysterical tizzy.

Finally, to get back to Buffalo Bob Sardello's idea of dildonics, my
other picture of this A_T group is that of a cyber bordello, where
Tarjei is the owner and Frank is the Madam. We physical guys are the
etheric "girls of the evening" as it were, and the physical ladies
are the etheric male clients, or "Johns" (Johannesses?) Most of the
entertainment consists of us etheric girlie-men doing striptease on
center stage. I myself am of the conservative old school, using the
fans like Sally Rand used to do. And occasionally I do swing around
that new-fangled pole.

Now this latter metaphor is for Joel's benefit. Joel, I must tell
you, you do have a nice pair of etheric hooters; you even have a
nicely shaped etheric ass, and you have done so much admirable work
in PoF and epistemology that the average John, or, Johannes, would
select you over so many others in the "stable." I mean, you really
know how to swing around that pole and get those dollar bills stuffed
into your Native American motif G-strings, etc., but but you are
violating a certain decorum of the bordello and I do believe you will
intervention of sorts, a kind of Texas 2-step around the pole.

Joel, if you would just come up on stage and do your striptease
routine like every other girlie-man here, everything would be fine.
But instead, you have the chutzpah, I guess it's some kind of
entitlement issue, where you come on stage and you take the bloody
dildo-lance of Amfortas and start immediately thrusting it into your
lower etheric sheath, and as if that weren't gross enough public
behavior, you actually feel entitled to payment from the customers,
the last third of a century.

Why even, Martha, with her New Mexican 10 gallon hat jauntily cocked,
as it were, told you in direct terms to stop with your autobiography
already. Listen to her, already! (Doesn't Martha remind you a lot of
Gary Cooper in High Noon? "Do not forsake me oh, my darling!...)

In other words, Joel, do come on stage and give us a nice striptease
dildo to pleasure yourself and expect not to be thrown out of the
bordello.

OK, Mike, I'll end here. This should be more than enough to spark
discussion around the pole,or is it more patches for the quilting
bee? (As it were. )

Thomasina in the etheric
• The great achievement of the 4th Way system, given from the outset by Ouspensky, who said the system was important because it wasn t his, consists of the
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"The great achievement of the 4th Way system, given from the outset
by Ouspensky, who said the system was important because it wasn't
his, consists of the integrality of the Law of Three with the Law of
Seven. It is imperative to give note to this important interaction;
that we must take account of the working of the Law of Three, which
has been born out of the Law of Seven. In actuality, Aristotle
discovered the working presence of the Law of Three over 2300 years
ago. He discovered that nature bears three reflective spheres of
activity; the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms. As such, they
reflect and coincide exactly with the Higher Worlds, known as Upper
Devachan, Lower Devachan, and the Astral Plane. Based on this
discovery, Aristotle, after spending 20 years in Plato's Academy,
and then instructing the young Alexander the Great for eight years,
started a school designed to address the facts and significance of
the Law of Three seen existing in nature. The first step taken in
this school, The Peripatetic, was to gain a disciplined hold on the
fundamentals of deductive reasoning, the first form of reasoning to
be developed by the great initiates of Greek philosophy. Thus, the
first expression of the Law of Three took the form of what is known
as the 'Logical Syllogism', comprised of: Major Premise, Minor
Premise, Conclusion. After this disciplined thinking was
sufficiently developed the student graduated into the inner circle;
the secondary school where the Laws and Beings of Nature were
taught. And their correspondence to the Higher Worlds.
Ouspensky gives extraordinary emphasis to the importance of the
Law of Three throughout the 4th Way discourse. And when he begins to
refer to the formation and importance of the Lateral Octave of La-
Sol-Fa, and its relationship to the sensitive film that surrounds
the earth, i.e., organic life on earth, then we have a very great
advancement from the work of Aristotle. Why? Because Aristotle could
never have discovered this himself. The Fourth Way describes this
most significant fact; the fact of the path of the descending
octave, and the La-Sol-Fa extraction."
---From "Quaternium Organum" by Stephen Hale

I have a diagram somewhere that reflects the idea of a divine
symbolic trinity wherein the circle, the triangle, and the square
are perfectly intact. And this constitutes the original plan of
earth evolution; the one described in Steiner's "Outline of Occult
Science" involving the careful weaving and looming activities of the
Hierarchies in the three spheres of Cosmic Embryology [Saturn-Sun-
Moon]. But this was all changed, and the original physical,
etheric, and astral body prototypes were made coarser and denser
than originally intended in order for the Ego, the fourth member of
man's being, to be developed on earth from the beginning, and not
the end, as the basis of human freedom.

So, the secret to the Enneagram is that it is a reflection of
repeated earth lives in the form of the deconstruction of the square
in the middle, surrounded by an intact triangle (Soul), and further
surrounded by an intact circle (Spirit). Thus, the Enneagram bears
the knowledge of the revised plan of earth evolution involving
repeated earth lives due to the densifying and complexifying nature
of the human being that must now evolve in a physical world whose
source comes from the Moon. The mineral kingdom passed over from
the Moon to the Earth 50,000 years ago, and this is when the concept
of repeated earth lives also commenced.

The Moon, in turn, now bears the original diaphenous etheric
constitution that still echoes in the Garden of Eden story. But on
the Moon, this fine etheric substance becomes of the nature of its
total opposite, and so the moon is now a super-hardened
counterweight to the earth, while the earth bears the wisdom of the
three nature kingdoms, with the mineral kingdom coming forth through
Jehova's work on the Moon. Man can only be free by evolving in a
mineralized world where his destiny cannot be found and cannot be
influential. And only through thinking does mankind knock at the
door of his true destiny; the destiny of complete and individualized
freedom in eternity.

Steve

--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "tmasthenes13"
<TomBuoyed@...> wrote:
>
> Steve Hale wrote:
> >
> > It is very interesting that you complete your thought with this
> > reference to the enneagram. I wonder how many people have
> considered
> > that the dodecahedron and the enneagram represent the two great
> mystic
> > symbols of the 20th century. The former refers to the model of
man
> as
> > universal human, and latter to the concept of self-remembering.
• ... LOL!! Priceless. It would be hard for us to discuss sexism, I guess, since you apparently don t know what it is! Diana
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "ishtarmustdie"
<sardisian01@...> wrote:

>The only sexism I know of is Steiner's continual reference to the work
>of men in the endeavors of his very positive spiritual philosophy. I
>believe it has to do with the necessary continuance of the male
>principle in the transition from the intellectual to the consciousness
>soul age.

LOL!! Priceless.
It would be hard for us to discuss sexism, I guess, since you
apparently don't know what it is!
Diana
• ... that ... dialect ... you ... fructification ... Hey Tom, thanks for yur indepth reply, i ve been meaning to get back to this but I ve had to do the mister
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "tmasthenes13"
<TomBuoyed@...> wrote:
>
> Mike Helser wrote:
>
> > If RS was right, and sex and Love are indeed mutually exclusive,
> then
> > maybe that's why he left us a corps to feed on. My X Buddhist
> buddies
> > were always be meditating of death and rotting corpses to quell
> their
> > sexual desires. Perhaps if we weren't all buzzing and crawling
> around
> > this corps, we'd all be out sport-fucking like crazey..:-O
> >
> > fascinating!
> ------------------------------
>
> Yo Mike!
>
> Thanks for appreciating my metaphors. I always loved the upgrade
that
> Marshall McLuhan gave to the statement made 2 centuries ago by the
> great Limey poet Robert Browning:
>
> "Man's reach must exceed his grasp, or else, what's a heaven for?"
>
> Mercurial oracle Marshy Mac Luhan changed that to:
>
> "Man's reach must exceed his grasp, or else what's a metaphor?"
>
> Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!
>
> Anyway, I must first give you a short lesson in speaking the
dialect
> of Classical Anthroposophese. You expressed yourself in the rather
> coarse vernacular, using the term "sport-fucking."
>
> The f-word in Classical Anthroposophese is not 4 letters, but 8, to
> wit: "fructify." So, in future anthro-social gatherings, be they 3-
> fold or not, or whether here online or in an actual study group,
you
fructification"
> or "sport-fructifying" or even the most formal expression of
> all: "undergoing a process, as it were, of sport-fructification."

Hey Tom, thanks for yur indepth reply, i've been meaning to get back
to this but I've had to do the mister Mom thing this weekend, as my
wonderful wifey is away visiting. so in a way i'm strapping on my
own "big hooters". Still don't have much time, but I didn't wanna let
it drift away.

Ok, so it should also be the "Enkidu fructificationathon"...:)

(interesting about the Gilgamesh story to me, is the rather involuted
idea of sexuality, as represented by the high priestess (Enkidu"s
lover)as compared to the standards of today)

>
> I am fascinated, in a very Spock-like way (and I could be subtly
> referring here to Benjy's sister Marjorie), with your correlation
> between meditating on corpses and quelling those rather insistent
> desires of a fructifactory nature. I assume you may be referring to
> the Hindu vow of "brahmacharya," which is not just sexual celibacy,
> but refraining from eating meat and other coarse sensual stuff. But
> all that seems to be such a "guy thing" and also pretty atavistic.

Well we we're vegetarians also. there were also seperate community
houses for men and women. I think now that it was all about some kind
of redemption, Metabavna (as is the main theme of buddhism). twas a
good stepping stone for me to help rethink my catholic/bevis and

Gheesh, the "guy thing" reminds me of a phase I went through with the
Robert Bly "Iron John" story...Which brings me to think of a song I
heard once on the doctor demento show about sailors at sea (sung in a
round similar to row row row yur boat) "men men men men...men men men
men...so throw your rubbers overboard there's nobody here but ....men
men men men...."

>
> But the truth is, I could actually more easily imagine my own
> parents "undergoing, as it were, a process of mutual fructifcation"
> than I ever could imagine Rudolf Steiner playing "hide the pickle"
> with any woman, be it Marie the Dour, or even Lovely Ita, Ita babe,
> (sing it: ". . . where would I be without you? Give us a wink and
> make me think of you. . . . Lovely Ita, Ita-babe!).
>
> (I was once exiled from a study group in Tennessee when an old S98
> post of mine surfaced where I had speculated on the idea that the
> real love of Rudy's life was not Marie, but Ita! Sigh! Ah, so much
> for neo-Platonic romanticism. )
>
> So here we have this unsettling, disquieting possibility that the
> entire corpus (not corpse now) of anthroposophy, the entire
> Gesamtausgabe, could have been founded on the repression of Rudolf
> Steiner's fructificatorial urges. But wait, there is a new sexual
> revolution going on and Rudolf Steiner may someday be canonized as
> the patron saint of this very "brahmacharyan" movement called
> ASEXUALITY. Check out this website for info
> http://www.asexuality.org/info.htm
>
> After all, since the asexuals have a T-shirt now, then they have to
> be an official and bona fide social movement, right? Now check out
> their Yahoo group, which you can read without subscribing as you
can
> with A_T
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/havenforthehumanamoeba/messages
>
> As of today they have 589 members, as compared to 232 on A_T.
>
> Oh and their slogan on the T-shirt reads:
>
> ASEXUALITY: NOT JUST FOR AMOEBAS ANYMORE!
>
> But now back to repression. Years ago, in the heyday of Steiner98,
> the erudite techno-scholar William Irwin Thompson happened to fall
> down the rabbit hole of S98. I had accused him then of calling
> Steiner queer. While dusting himself off, Billy, aka, WIT, related
> to us that it was not he, but rather the New Age historian Rick
> Tarnas, who had actually made the remark that he thought Rudolf
> Steiner was a "repressed homosexual."
>
> Now, when the angels let me, I will pontificate on the spiritual-
> scientific principles of homosexuality. But they involve the rather
> complicated cross-pollination, as it were, (even cross-dressing? )
> No, better say, cross-weaving, as it were, of the male and female
> etheric-physical sheathes analogous to the way vision works through
> the optic chiasma. Interestingly enough, the phenomenon, as far as
I
> can surmise --- with a straight face and a flaccid "lower larynx,"
as
> it were --- is neither genetic nor karmic in origin. However, if
you
> would like to observe Goetheanistically, the phenomena of gayness
and
> lesbianhood, do go out and see the movie Transamerica, where
Felicity
> Huffman won the best Actress Oscar for portraying a pre-operative
> transsexual man becoming a woman.
>
> (For if you can catch such a person, before he, makes the,
> er, "final cut," as it were, then much may be clarified in the
> seer's (or is it sneer's?") inner spiritual perception of the
inter-
> twining astral-etheric-physical mysteries of the male and female. I
> blush as I report this, but I must say, in all candor, that my
> Goetheanistic observations --- seeing in thinking and thinking in
> seeing --- of pre-op trannies, (known more colorfully as "chicks
with
> dicks") were simultaneously the most titillating and penetrating
> clairsentient experiences of the entire course of my post-pubescent
> life!)
>
> Anyway, this whole Transamerica phenomenon, so mainstream out here
in
> the City of Angels, has inspired me to ask the most profound
> questions of spiritual science I have come up with to date:
>
> Does size matter in counterspace?

Good question...:) I might matter more(if it matters at all) when
some science geek invents machine to measure thought....:-O

All of the above is quite interesting. long time ago I sponsored a
kid that was gay and he told me that his dad had sex with his
brother, and then his brother slept in the same room as him and they
developed a sexual relationship. I thought I was supposed to help him
with his drug addiction till he asked me..."do you think I'm gay?" I
gave him the best answer that I could at the time..."i don't know."

As to RS..."did he, or did he not, that is the question".

The whole world came slamming down on me one day, when i realized the
immense and intrinsic responsibility that RS was pointing to with the
idea of intuiting moral imagination...I hit my knees and tears hit
the side walk and I found my self very much in tune with a scene in
the Wayne's world movie where Wayne and Garth are bowing to Alice
copper whining "were not worthy."

I've just opened up a pinhole to the view of mount Olympus, and in
that light the idea of sex seems kinda stupid. So I would guess that
if RS was indeed viewing in 3d surround sound, that he may indeed
have been celibate.

gotta go back to work

Mike
• ... stuffed ... i like joels hooters too. he and I have walked a similar path and though in the physical I my need to catch up with honing some skills,
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>
> Now this latter metaphor is for Joel's benefit. Joel, I must tell
> you, you do have a nice pair of etheric hooters; you even have a
> nicely shaped etheric ass, and you have done so much admirable work
> in PoF and epistemology that the average John, or, Johannes, would
> select you over so many others in the "stable." I mean, you really
> know how to swing around that pole and get those dollar bills
stuffed
> into your Native American motif G-strings, etc....

i like joels hooters too. he and I have walked a similar path and
though in the physical I my need to catch up with honing some skills,
(writing and typing and spelling and a boat load of reading)I do
believe that I catch his drift on occasion. we often sail on the same
breeze. but sometimes Joel loads his cannons and turns into the wind
and lobs out a few broadsides on the ships he sees sailing in a
diffrent direction. I've always loves the old pirate ship movies
and "master and commander" was a huge thrill. But I usually just
watch these big gunned jousts form my own little "seemingly seaworthy
ship of doubt...." But I was at one time inspired in part by joel to
write the following little ditty:

The Sea of Love

My seemingly seaworthy ship of doubt
Is but a speck of angst, churning in a sea of Love
That can only be navigated by the innocence
That is liken onto a child

My compass broken, I sail by the stars of the night
For I was told that the sun is but a burning ball of gas

I learn to live within the angst
Encased in a dream that seems so real
And all that I grasp in this dream turns to stone
I save them in the belly of my ship of doubt
Until one day it finally sinks

And there I am...alone
My speck of angst turns into a black hole into which I fall
And all that I thought that I was
Weighs upon me
Like the falling of the night sky onto the earth

I struggle and try to think like a snake
I slither in the manmade crevasse
Of the world of the machine.
Squeezed like a sardine
And prodded by the pecking of hens
Until all that remains
Is the Horror

It was then that a Whole Universe
Contained In a tiny drop
Of all that was left of the Sea of Love
Came forth...

From the corner of my eye

Thanks Joel

Mike
• ... work ... philosophy. I ... consciousness ... The point simple that I wanted to make is that the male principle runs throught the fourth cultural epoch and
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<diana.winters@...> wrote:
>
> --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "ishtarmustdie"
> <sardisian01@> wrote:
>
> >The only sexism I know of is Steiner's continual reference to the
work
> >of men in the endeavors of his very positive spiritual
philosophy. I
> >believe it has to do with the necessary continuance of the male
> >principle in the transition from the intellectual to the
consciousness
> >soul age.
>
>
>
> LOL!! Priceless.
> It would be hard for us to discuss sexism, I guess, since you
> apparently don't know what it is!
> Diana

The point simple that I wanted to make is that the male principle
runs throught the fourth cultural epoch and on into the fifth, while
the female principle runs throughout the third cultural epoch and on
into the fourth, where we see all the goddess worshipping as
evidence of the great acheivement of sentiency. The intellect of
man rests on the foundation of this sentiency, just as man's
consciousness rests on the foundation of his/her intellect.

Now, herein the "greater" consciousness soul age which commenced at
the turn of the 20th century, we have a measure of cosmic
intelligence made available for the uptake. And philosophy, which
by some accounts died in 1950, is actually redeemed through
anthroposophical spiritual science. And by redeemed I mean that
higher forms of reasoning are contained within this body of
knowledge as working principles. And it most probably takes the
further effort of the male principle in recognizing and championing
this important fact for the future of spiritual science as a
furtherance of the fourth cultural epoch, as well as a higher
resolution of the third cultural epoch in its own right.

Steve
>
• Tom, I have been meaning to get back to you about these comments below: As for Gurdjieff, I wonder if you could shed some light on some anthropoop I
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Tom, I have been meaning to get back to you about these comments
below:

"As for Gurdjieff, I wonder if you could shed some light on
some "anthropoop" I overheard in AP circles, about G in relation to
Steiner." I heard that one time Gurdjieff paid a visit to the
Goetheanum, but when Steiner heard about it, he became livid, and
actually had to be physically restrained from attacking G. The
reason apparently was that RS did not want all the evil, nasty,
egregore-type entities in G's "astral body entourage" to contaminate
the pristine etheric spiritual atmosphere of the Goetheanum."

Yes, I heard this too, and I do believe that David Eyes spoke about
it in his short essay, "Gurdjieff and Steiner". I had an
interesting discussion with David Eyes a few years ago about Steiner
and Gurdjieff. In the Gospel of Matthew lectures, given in
September of 1910, Steiner gives a certain attention to a form of
clairvoyance beheld by the gypsies; he called it the clairvoyance of
the turanians. Gurdjieff was such a one as these. Thus, he had a
kind of crystal-ball form of clairvoyance, which was actually the
ability to see the human aura. And this made him particularly able
to see the human moral condition. He had the knack of seeing the
flaws and weaknesses of those he was in touch with, and this made
him very capable of creating programs for human development along
the lines of what people needed in order to counter the defects that
he saw in their characters. It became known as "chief feature",
which requires one to go against the grain of their strong suit, and
purposely cultivate their opposite, or what is most weak in one's
nature. And he was a genius for doing such a thing.

The reason is that this method constitutes a recapitulation of the
old forms of initiation science wherein the corollary was enforced
in order to keep arrogance and pride in check. Emphasizing chief
feature had this in mind; and it worked to an extraordinarily
effective degree. Whether Gurdjieff ever actually knocked at the
door of the Goetheanum is unknown to me. But, considering that very
fine etheric forms and beings, including Theodor Feiss were
contained therein, and that Gurdjieff had this form of what could be
called "cheap clairvoyance", it is quite possible that his
admittance would be considered an offense to the environment; being
of the astral body kind, he would only have beheld something that
would have given him the pause of a new vantage point. And that
point concerns the astral-etheric connection needed for modern
initiaiton science to be fully successful. This fact is knowable.

Steve
• Steve wrote: But, considering that very fine etheric forms and beings, including Theodor Feiss were contained therein, and that Gurdjieff had this form of
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Steve wrote:

" But, considering that very
fine etheric forms and beings, including Theodor Feiss were
contained therein, and that Gurdjieff had this form of what could be
called "cheap clairvoyance", it is quite possible that his
admittance would be considered an offense to the environment; being
of the astral body kind, he would only have beheld something that
would have given him the pause of a new vantage point. "

What a refreshing breath of fresh air. Christ walking on water,
etheric or otherwise, what lame ass research about the frozen seas,
it was brought up on this list or another long ago and frozen water
was postulated by some dim wit, I forget who. Now comes this, Steve
called it dead on, just cheap crappy science to fill in the deadness
of those who don't understand why they are numb. I keep experiencing
the shock of the numbness for those who actually feel a hollow that
something else should be there, something vast and penetrating,
Grail Science, pulsing in culture and full of life. And I can
experience the numbness the painful, 'whatever' numbness that it
isn't there and it can't be found and they don't have a clue how to
navigate their thoughts towards it. Grants and money to say any kind
of human nonsense because Spiritual Science aka Miracle isn't really
possible. Humans are so deeply in the hole that looking down is like
looking up.

Steve your description of Gurdjieff's drives, force, will and
general condensed mithraric selfishness, condensed will and his
dominating personality, is like having a sociopath with a heightened
Ahrimanic shadow, so dense that it reverberates as an undertow in
everyone around him...This sort of astrality, but with some etheric
super driving patterning, his ability to dominate and force the soul
into a kind of pre-Christ initiation pattern, was rich to
contemplate.

I have looked forward to what you were going to bring on Kaspar
Hauser...all I can savor is where your current soberness and clarity
arises from. You do have your dips, but these several ringing posts
were like fresh air, thanks.
• ... The Fourth Way describes this ... Dear Stephen, Can you say a little more about the descending octave. What s it comprised of, how it s formed? Are you
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
"ishtarmustdie" <sardisian01@...> wrote:
>

The Fourth Way describes this
> most significant fact; the fact of the path of the descending
> octave, and the La-Sol-Fa extraction."
> ---From "Quaternium Organum" by Stephen Hale

Dear Stephen,

Can you say a little more about the descending octave. What's it
comprised of, how it's formed? Are you saying descending in
that one corresponds to spirit, another soul, and another the
physical? Since these are tones is there a corresponding
gesture as well?-Val
• ... seas, ... water ... Steve ... deadness ... experiencing ... that ... penetrating, ... that it ... to ... any kind ... isn t really ... is like ... Look s
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
"holderlin66" <holderlin66@...> wrote:

> What a refreshing breath of fresh air. Christ walking on water,
> etheric or otherwise, what lame ass research about the frozen
seas,
> it was brought up on this list or another long ago and frozen
water
> was postulated by some dim wit, I forget who. Now comes this,
Steve
> called it dead on, just cheap crappy science to fill in the
> of those who don't understand why they are numb. I keep
experiencing
> the shock of the numbness for those who actually feel a hollow
that
> something else should be there, something vast and
penetrating,
> Grail Science, pulsing in culture and full of life. And I can
> experience the numbness the painful, 'whatever' numbness
that it
> isn't there and it can't be found and they don't have a clue how
to
> navigate their thoughts towards it. Grants and money to say
any kind
> of human nonsense because Spiritual Science aka Miracle
isn't really
> possible. Humans are so deeply in the hole that looking down
is like
> looking up.

Look's like they caught a big fish-or to quote the professor-a Holy
Cow!-Val

http:www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/science/05cnd-fossil.html?ex

By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: April 5, 2006

Scientists have discovered fossils of a 375 million-year-old fish,
a large scaly creature not seen before, that they say is a
long-sought "missing link" in the evolution of some fishes from
water to a life walking on four limbs on land.

University of Chicago
A model of the 375 million-year-old fish, which exhibits changes
that anticipate the emergence of land animals.

In addition to confirming elements of a major transition in
evolution, the fossils are widely seen by scientists as a powerful
rebuttal to religious creationists, who hold a literal biblical view
on the origins and development of life.

Several well-preserved skeletons of the fossil fish were
uncovered in sediments of former stream beds in the Canadian
Arctic, 600 miles from the North Pole, it is being reported on
Thursday in the journal Nature. The skeletons have the fins and
scales and other attributes of a giant fish, four to nine feet long.

But on closer examination, scientists found telling anatomical
traits of a transitional creature, a fish that is still a fish but
exhibiting changes that anticipate the emergence of land
animals  a predecessor thus of amphibians, reptiles and
dinosaurs, mammals and eventually humans.

The scientists described evidence in the forward fins of limbs in
the making. There are the beginnings of digits, proto-wrists,
elbows and shoulders. The fish also had a flat skull resembling
a crocodile's, a neck, ribs and other parts that were similar to
four-legged land animals known as tetrapods.

The discovering scientists called the fossils the most
compelling examples yet of an animal that was at the cusp of the
fish-tetrapod transition. The fish has been named Tiktaalik
roseae, at the suggestion of elders of Canada's Nunavut
Territory. Tiktaalik (pronounced tic-TAH-lick) means "large
shallow water fish."

In two reports in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature, the
science team led by Neil H. Shubin of the University of Chicago
wrote, "The origin of limbs probably involved the elaboration and
proliferation of features already present in the fins of fish such as
Tiktaalik."

Dr. Shubin, an evolutionary biologist, let himself go in an
interview. "It's a really amazing remarkable intermediate fossil 
it's like, holy cow," he enthused.

Two other paleontologists, commenting on the find in a separate
article in the journal, said that a few other transitional fish had
been previously discovered from approximately the same Late
Devonian time period, 385 million to 359 million years ago. But
Tiktaalik is so clearly an intermediate "link between fishes and
land vertebrates," they said, that it "might in time become as
much an evolutionary icon as the proto-bird Archaeopteryx,"
which bridged the gap between reptiles, probably dinosaurs,
and today's birds.

The writers, Erik Ahlberg of Uppsala University in Sweden and
Jennifer A. Clack of the University of Cambridge in England, are
often viewed as rivals to Dr. Shubin's team in the search for
intermediate species in the evolution from fish to the first
animals to colonize land.

In a statement by the Science Museum of London, where casts
of the fossils will be on view, Dr. Clack said the fish "confirms
everything we thought and also tells us about the order in which

H. Richard Lane, director of paleobiology at the National Science
Foundation, said in a statement, "These exciting discoveries are
providing fossil 'Rosetta Stones' for a deeper understanding of
this evolutionary milestone  fish to land-roaming tetrapods."

The science foundation and the National Geographic Society
were among the financial supporters of the research. Besides
Dr. Shubin, the principal discoverers were Edward B. Daeschler
Jenkins Jr., a Harvard evolutionary biologist.

Michael J. Novacek, a paleontologist at the American Museum of
Natural History in Manhattan, who was not involved in the
research, said: "Based on what we already know, we have a very
strong reason to think tetrapods evolved from lineages of fishes.
This may be a critical phase in that transition that we haven't had
before. A good fossil cuts through a lot of scientific argument."

While Dr. Shubin's team played down the fossil's significance in
the raging debate over Darwinian theory, which is opposed
mainly by some conservative Christians in the United States,
other scientists were not so reticent. They said this should
undercut the creationists' argument that there is no evidence in
the fossil record of one kind of creature becoming another kind.

One creationist Web site (emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid1.htm)
declares that "there are no transitional forms," adding: "For
example, not a single fossil with part fins part feet has been
found. And this is true between every major plant and animal
kind."
• ... The cosmology of the Fourth Way, as developed by Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, is rather elegantly described as the Ray of Creation . As such, it subscribes
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--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com, "isenhart7"
<isenhart7@...> wrote:
>
> --- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
> "ishtarmustdie" <sardisian01@> wrote:
> >
>
> The Fourth Way describes this
> > most significant fact; the fact of the path of the descending
> > octave, and the La-Sol-Fa extraction."
> > ---From "Quaternium Organum" by Stephen Hale
>
> Dear Stephen,
>
> Can you say a little more about the descending octave. What's it
> comprised of, how it's formed? Are you saying descending in
> that one corresponds to spirit, another soul, and another the
> physical? Since these are tones is there a corresponding
> gesture as well?-Val

"The cosmology of the Fourth Way, as developed by Gurdjieff and
Ouspensky, is rather elegantly described as the 'Ray of Creation'.
As such, it subscribes almost exclusively to the law of numbers,
i.e, 1, 3, 6, 12, 24, 48, 96, and so on. A parallel of this number
scheme exists by comparing it to the work of the philosopher,
Proclus, who developed a system called, "emanationism", based
entirely on the influence of light as it descends into the earthly
realm. Proclus lived around 500 AD. Thus, the Macrocosm is
comprised of Sun and Moon, the Planets, and the Starry World of the
Heavens. And these are all in us in the form of a Microcosm. We
embody the great Universe in its entirety. The problem is that we
don't know it; we have forgotten this fact. In Proclus' time it was
still remembered. Thus, according to 4th Way logic, The Sun and the
Moon represent the (Do) note of the descending octave; and (Si)
represents the Planets. This Do-Si connection, and its results, lead
to a lateral octave that forms relative to the notes La-Sol-Fa, and
comprises organic life on earth. La-Sol-Fa represents a trinity of
Spiritual Beings dedicated to earth evolution, and out of which, the
active, passive, and neutral forces of the so-called material atom
are formed. Lucifer is the spiritual being behind the active force;
Ahriman is the spiritual being behind the passive force; and the
Christ is the spiritual being behind the neutral force. Active force
becomes the 1st force; passive force, the 2nd force; and neutral
force, the 3rd force. Now the system that comprises the Fourth Way
makes very specific reference to the fact that these forces, 1-2-3,
active, passive, and neutral, must become 1-3-2 in order for an
active manifestation of material phenomena to occur. In other words,
organic life on earth demands that a change of position take place
between the passive and neutral forces. Thus, the Christ and Ahriman
change places. And this change of places occurred two thousand years
ago. As a result, Ahriman takes the functional role of the "Being of
Heat Force" within the inner domain of the earth, while the Christ
gives the 'spark' of the neutral force over the course of three
years, and then ascends into the etheric realm of the earth in order
to fortify the moral element of the earth that has been realized
since 1933."
--From Quaternium Organum by S. G. Hale
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