In response to something I saw earlier....(my thoughts are preceded
Hello and welcome.
I would like to argue in favor of breeding.
*** Me too
It all comes down to
genes, whether you're a virus or a complex animal, you are here to
survive, and continue your genes.
What if these two goals are mutually exclusive? Our continuing to
pass on our genes threatens our survival.
**** It just so happens it does, if we continue at the rate we're
going we will eventually destroy ourselves
>Unfortunately, that process has taken
its toll on the planet, which is why I'm all too eager to see us
isolate ourselves from Earth's ecosphere-be it underground or into
space. One way or another I feel like we should have as little effect
if any at all on the planet's surface.
*** Once again, exactly.
Living underground might not reduce our environmental impact all that
much. Like metropolitan areas, we would still have to bring in
resources and put out wastes.
**** Using resources: we're going to have to get them from somewhere,
I vote for asteroid mining, but that is too costly at the moment.
However, WHILE we are WORKING TOWARD that goal, use what's available
here in as economical a fashion as possible. There is actually very
little of our waste that can't be recycled somehow or another, it
just comes down to economic viability (which brings me nearer to my
eventual point-money is what's ######## it up for us, I say we should
start by removing money, not ourselves.)
While it's theoretically possible for
humans to live in space, establishing those space stations would have
a heavy environmental impact as well.
**** Could you list those please?
One major problem I see with humans living underground and in space
is that we won't like it.
*** Yes, well, they won't like it when they wipe themselves out either
If we collectively aren't willing to stop
increasing our numbers by 210,000 per day for the good of Earth's
ecosphere, I doubt we'll be willing to live in totally artificial
environments for that reason.
*** Hmm, stop having sex so I can live on the surface, or stop living
on the surface so I can keep having sex
I think you'd be surprised at
the answer (and really it's not so much about the sex, I just want to
be able to live my gluttonous life and pollute my immediate
environment without any serious consequence to the planet.) But
you're inadvertently correct about people's choice. Humans are too
lazy to pick one of those options because they know they will never
actually have to in this lifetime, and that mentality will continue
with each generation until something cataclysmic happens and forces
us into a new direction.I daydream of being that something
What would be our reason for producing future generations whose lives
would be so mentally unhealthy?
*** Why do you feel they would be mentally unhealthy? If you teach
your offspring the responsibility of coexisting with a delicate
ecosystem, that would have to be commended as healthy and honorable.
I guess that's what we're doing today
even without the prospects of living underground or in space. I
wonder why. Is our purpose to reproduce ourselves to death like
mindless yeast in a batch of beer?
*** When you think about it, we pretty much serve the same purpose as
any virus, bacteria, sponge at the bottom of the sea, or a bird or
any living organism found on this planet- to continue our DNA. Planet
Earth is the womb in which the seed of the stars has sprouted; soon
we must exit this womb before it eventually washes us out.