... by the Royal Navy, 12 of whom had Certificates of American citizenship. He states that the Royal Navy took claims of American citizenship seriously andMessage 1 of 40 , Feb 1, 2012View Source
>>In 1803, Madison reported to Congress that 43 Americans had been takenby the Royal Navy, 12 of whom had Certificates of American citizenship. He states that the Royal Navy took claims of American citizenship
seriously and investigated them as best it could, releasing men whose
claims checked out. (page 17).<<
Depending on when in 1803 that was reported, my French-born ancestor may have been one of those 12. He had waited 5 years to get his citizenship (having been in the United States since 1794 anyway) and he received it on Sept. 6, 1803. He was taken by the British shortly after that because I know he was nearly killed in Egypt in late 1803. I'm sure his American merchant ship captain protested his impressment, but any letter citing the protest by the Department of State was ignored by the Royal Navy, because my ancestor served in the Royal Navy until he escaped in 1812 when his ship put in to Toulon, France after mostly being stationed in Egypt. If I were the Royal Navy, I'd have ignored any request to release him because he spoke both French and English and was a superb sailor having been educated from apprentice cabin boy at age 13 to achieving first mate at the latest by age 22 (and probably earlier) on his American merchant ship.
When I asked my father about why he signed up in 1939 his answer was very simple, because you did a whole generation in the UK did because it was the rightMessage 40 of 40 , Feb 4, 2012View SourceWhen I asked my father about why he signed up in 1939 his answer was very simple, "because you did" a whole generation in the UK did because it was the right thing to do. Whether they still thought that in May 1945 (at least those who had survived) is perhaps a rather different question :)
On 3 Feb 2012, at 22:28, Ron wrote:
> When I asked my Grandad why he signed up for WW 1 and my Dad for WW II the answer was the same--for the adventure! Not KIng and country, not to oppose the godless Hun but simply for the adventure. Neiher wanted a job or signed up through economic necessity.
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> Squire wrotwe: "Was a good option if you were starving."
> Spot on, Squire! Certainly, not everyone who joined the Allied forces in 1939-40-41 did it solely because of a deep seated hatered for National Socialism. Three squares a day and a new brown or blue suit must have sounded pretty good to many of the men who hadn't worked [or eaten properly] in the Depression years. I also noted a few years ago one young lad who'd lost his job at Marks & Spencer and joined the British Army and died in Iraq. His pastor at homne referred tio him as 'an economic conscript', which I thought a very telling turn of phrase. Certainly a large number, of the grunts at least, who serve in the Canadian Foprces come from the less affluent parts of this great land.
> Peter Monahan
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