Hello Bill, Reading your post is indeed thought provoking and here are a few of the those thoughts. First and foremost, the cost of a new structure, especiallyMessage 1 of 3 , Feb 4, 2008View SourceHello Bill,Reading your post is indeed thought provoking and here are a few of the those thoughts.First and foremost, the cost of a new structure, especially one of brick, will be fairly sizeable. It will be a cost to be borne in one lump sum with a bank and interest needed to spread the cost to the club out over time. I would suspect a cost in the area of 50 to 100 thousand dollars depending on the exquisiteness of the new structure. Maintaining the old structure, albeit with the impression of 'nickel and diming' the club, is something that not only can be done with smaller immediate costs, but will be easier to get volunteer labor to do. A new structure will have to be done entirely by licensed contractors. Factoring in the lack of volunteer labor with interest costs, we now have what may be an insurmountable fee embellished upon the club. Failure to keep up with payments may result in foreclosure and a total loss of the clubhouse and possibly the property on which it stands.Perhaps we should look into the criteria needed to have the clubhouse considered as a historical structure and seek monetary support from that vector. I am not familiar with that criteria, but the clubhouse is indeed a part of Muskegon's history and may qualify for some funding to keep it intact.I know that the electrical system has come into question over the years, but I am not so sure it is so bad it needs attention right now. I have seen much worse, trust me. Unless there has been some problems with it in the past that I am not aware of I don't understand why we need to consider tending to it.I am not trying to play the devil's advocate here, but merely trying to point out that maintaining the current structure does not put it at risk. Also, we must realize that any structure, new or otherwise, requires a certain amount of maintenance to remain useable throughout the duration.73Mark K8MHZ----- Original Message -----From: BillSent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:20Subject: [W8ZHO] Our Clubhouse, Our Future
You'll notice that this month's Flashovers expends some ink on the
subject of our future and our clubhouse. I've penned some material on
this subject. Allow me this opportunity to share the following with you.
It is time to retire the old clubhouse? The question needs to be
addressed as we continue to wonder of the wisdom of throwing more and
more money into maintenance and upgrading our tired log structure.
This legacy is important in our history and it is important to our
members as well. There have been innumerable work bees to shore up
this part, add that part, construct a fireplace, add an entry, or add
a restroom. Each of these projects has added character and comfort to
our small structure.
Can we determine the cost of upgrading all the systems related to the
building? Do we know how much money it will cost to side the
exterior, update the wiring and circuit breaker box, make the plumbing
work, insulate the structure, install a septic tank and drain field,
finish the interior, upgrade the radio shack, add air conditioning,
improve the heater, and generally make this structure a year round
clubhouse? If the cost of doing all these things is less than the
expense of a replacement structure then why would we keep putting
money into this tired building?
A new and improved clubhouse building could be designed for lasting
benefit to our future hams. It could be durably constructed,
adequately insulated, have all its amenities well planned and
requiring little maintenance. The building could be sheathed in
brick, durably roofed, well insulated, and be comfortable in year
round conditions. Such a structure might be less expensive to
construct than the expense of keeping the existing building functional.
The question needs to be asked and reviewed by our radio club. We
have a heritage and a history of which we can be very proud. Can we
build on this heritage and improve our club with the addition of a
better facility? The answer might be an interesting exercise in
looking into the future of radio in our community.
a member of our council's board
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All: Have we taken any time to ask, What would it cost to fix our existing facility? There are lots of memories, love, and history inside the walls andMessage 2 of 3 , Feb 6, 2008View SourceAll:
Have we taken any time to ask, "What would it cost to fix our existing
facility?" There are lots of memories, love, and history inside the
walls and under that roof.
We might find that starting over is cost prohibitive. We might find
that the new building would cost less to operate and maintain. Either
way, have we asked the question? Can we make an informed decision? I
Do we know that historic building status is desirable? Has anyone
experienced the burden of that program?
Could you envision our path to include an annual fund raising project,
501(c)3 status, historic building designation, a rich uncle leaving
their estate, an endowment fund, or dues per member three times their
We all share the responsibility to manage the Council's future for all
of our good. Take a few minutes to reread the material in Flashovers
and see if there is way you can help.