In a message dated 11/30/2011 6:39:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,
<<So what are you saying is the determining characteristic or
characteristics of a true Christian? Anyone that accepts the 66 book canon?
Anyone who professes Jesus regardless of whether or not they consider him to be
these are certainly two big very important
characteristics- it takes a little more than just professing jesus- one must
exercise faith in the saving power of the sacrifice of jesus, and have
faith that God will save them through that saving power.
<<Or maybe just those who agree 100% with
absolutely not, i am a student, not the teacher.
<<What we have is a bunch of folks all calling themselves
true Christians and who all accept the same text as the basis of their faith but
who have a smorgasbord of different beliefs and major disagreements between
yes, just like siblings in the same family have
disagreements between themselves
<<And these differences aren't minor
to whom? i think they are minor points to YHVH
<<These are big issues.>>
again, to whom?
<<Like whether Jesus is God or just a man (HUGE issue!). Or
whether or not Christians are supposed to keep the Torah and if so to what
for me these are points for discussion, but i don't see
either of them being something that should come between brothers and
<<On the issue of whether Jesus is God or not...whatever side
you take, if the other side is right, you are a heretic in the very worst sense
because you are breaking the first commandment, the most important of all.
Trinitarians claim that Unitarians are idolators and deniers of the true God,
because either 1) they give a creature the honor and worship due to God alone,
or 2) in those cases where Unitarians don't worship Jesus at all, they are
failing to give the proper honor and worship to one who is God. On the flipside,
if Trinitarians are wrong, then they are worshipping a man as God, the worst of
yes, and this is something that God in all His mercy is
going to have to sort out- but it is not for me to sort it out- i am only
commamnded to love God and love my neighbor (which includes my brothers and
sisters in christ). i can love my brothers and sisters and disagree with them
and have a good discussion on why i disagree with them.
<<The stakes couldn't be higher.>>
what stakes? i do not believe we are judged on doctrine,
i believe that we are judged on whether or not we have exercised faith in the
saving power of the blood that jesus shed on the cross and which YHVH God
accepted as the atonement for all sin, and because of that atonement i am no
longer a slave to sin, but rather now i am a slave to
- the apple