Kathy, The only other item that stands out the local register was Joe W. Vavra. The most frustrating part of researching in my family is the patriarchs (mostMessage 1 of 382 , Jun 30, 2008View SourceKathy, The only other item that stands out the local register was Joe W. Vavra. The most frustrating part of researching in my family is the patriarchs (most of the time the men named the sons at least that is what I have heard and read) used the same name over and over until you have some many same first names with same last name it is hard to separate them out. It was a tradition to name your son after your father, brother, or another favorite male relative. At least in my family this true. paulasmaggie----- Original Message -----From: Kathy (Dlabay) MakiewiczSent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:45 AMSubject: [TexasCzechs] Katerina Holubec Vavra
I have a Katerina Holubec born 1873 (or about 8/1872), Jasenka #74,
Moravia. Her parents are Tomas Holubec and Katherina Spacek. The
entire family (parents & 6 children) arrived in New Orleans 12 Dec
1873 on the Strassburg. Katerina was 9 months old. I have a copy of
Joe P Vavra (son?) is informant on Katerina Vavra's DC. Joe says she
was born 12/9/1973 in Austin Co. HHHUUUMMM!!! !! she was in the middle
of the ocean on that day if Frank Vavra's wife Katherine Holubec is my
Katerina Holubec. The Austin Co early births were just put up and
there's no Katerina Holubec listed although it's highly unlikely there
is a birth certificate for anyone born in 1873 Austin Co. I do have
another tidbit of information that my Katerina Holubec is an immigrant
in that she is mentioned in a museum in CZ with the rest of her
family. Off hand I can't remember the name of the museum.
What I can't figure is the parents (Tomas & Katherina) and 5 brothers
are all buried at the San Antonio Prairie/SPJST Cemetery. Right there
with them is Katrin Vavra 1871-1938 and there is no Vavra husband
buried in that cemetery. If this is the Katerina Holubec that married
Frank Vavra and she wasn't a part of this Holubec family then why is
she buried with them and not her husband.
Joe P's DC (which I had, not knowing Joe P is Joseph Patrick) has his
mother listed as Katerina Martin. Not Katerina Holubec. Where did
Martin come from?
Since Joe P Vavra's father is Frank Vavra then he married his first
cousin Milady Vavra, daughter of Josef and Annie Urban Vavra.
I am so confused with these Vavra now.
I hope you can understand this. I just know there is just 1 Katerina
Holubec Vavra. I thought the DC would help. If only they put her
father is Tomas or that her mother is a Spacek.
--- In TexasCzechs@ yahoogroups. com, "pfoster" <pfosterbmt@ ...> wrote:
> Katrina Vavra 1871 1938 San Antonio Prairie/SPJST Burleson County.
Death Certificate- Katheren Vavra Wd bn December 9, 1873 Austin County
Father Holubec/Europe, Mother unknown, d May 28, 1938 Caldwell Texas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kathy (Dlabay) Makiewicz
> To: TexasCzechs@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:48 PM
> Subject: [TexasCzechs] Filip in Burleson Co
> You mention Filip. I have Filip in Burleson & Lee counties. My
> grandmother is a Filip. My main connection is my grandmother' s
> cousin, Mary Jane Filip. She married Henry Frank Vavra. I have the
> 5 orphan, Filip siblings well documented and have the family
> information from Spalov, Moravia.
> I think we may have been in contact before. Probably for my
Katerina Holubec. I just found Katherine Holubec Vavra's Death Cert
and now I'm really confused.
> I have a few Vavra questions if you could contact me.
> Re:Roll Call
> I'm Anita Prazak, nee Berka, currently living in Caldwell, TX.
> Families have lived in the Burleson, Milam, Brazos counties area.
> Researching: BERKA, VAVRA, KLEPAC, KLEPACH, KLEPAQ, PRAZAK, PIWETZ,
> LACINA, FEIFER
> Associated family names include: GAAS, KARASEK, FILIP, VAVRA (THE
> "OTHER" ONES), <SNIP>
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... I was going through some old posts on this board and saw that you are researching the Michna family from Frenstat. My Wiesner family originates fromMessage 382 of 382 , Jul 25View Source--- In TexasCzechs@yahoogroups.com, "vmichna" <vmichna@...> wrote:
>I was going through some old posts on this board and saw that you are researching the Michna family from Frenstat.
> Valorie Michna researching:
> Michna from Frenstat
> Sasin from Zabreh nad Odrou
> Holain/Holan frmn Stara Bela
> Pitlik from Stara Bela
> Sorry, I am only 1/4 Czech so my list is kinda short.
My Wiesner family originates from Frenstat. My g-g-grandfather, Wilhelm R. Wiesner, had two family members marry into the Michna family. My 4th g-g-uncle, Antonin Wiesner b. 1795 Frenstat, married Johana Michna b. 1799, daughter of Martin Michna. My g-g-grandfather's sister, Alzbeta Wiesner b. 1844 Frenstat, married Jan Michna b. 1828, son of Tomas Michna.
I wonder if either of them connect with your line.